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crals
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« on: May 15, 2024, 09:24:12 AM »

I'm a proud Eurovision fan and think much of the criticism of the contest is unfair and rooted in xenophobia and LGBTphobia. Completely shutting out politics is not possible after all, everything is political if you dig deep enough, especially in a competition between nations.

That being said, the EBU fully deserve all the lashings this time, and I'm glad the Portuguese broadcaster is protesting the censorship of our contestant and other oddities. The disqualification of the Dutch artist while the Israeli delegation got away with harassment of other artists is ridiculous, and so is how easy it is to manipulate the televoting.

About the songs, Switzerland was actually my personal favorite and deserved the victory, but Croatia deserved it for winning the public voting against all odds. Top 10 for Portugal was a very nice surprise. Ukraine, Ireland, Armenia were lovely and deserved the good result. Norway was awesome as well and deserved better than last place, but at least it qualified.
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crals
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2024, 12:59:12 PM »

It's funny how absolutely butthurt some people are about Israel doing well in the televote as it goes against the narratives on Israel's popularity in Europe. Even in Ireland, they got 10 points which you wouldn't know based on online discourse. If I actually cared enough about this competition, I'd probably vote for her song too since while the song is generic her voice is nice and also because it must take a lot of mental fortitude to have such a good performance amidst a flurry of boos.

Let's be clear, these FPTP televote wins were often with 20-25% of those participating. Landslide!

Nobody serious has ever claimed that Israel has *no* supporters in the West - of course they do, and (without getting into conspiracy stuff at all) they are often notably vocal and well organised.

Didn't the italian vote leak show almost 40% support for Israel? Do we have detailed results for every country?
Only for Italy. Israel got 36% of their televotes in the semi-final and 26% in the final.

You can vote up to 20 times per phone though, so it's not quite comparable to FPTP. Israel supporters were very organized and willing to spend money to make a statement, and we know this because they were also very vocal in gloating about it. I'm not sure much can be concluded about Israel's popularity in Europe from this result.
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