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Lakigigar
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« on: March 25, 2023, 09:21:33 PM »
I disagree with this act, though i can live with a time constraint (a six month period to vote on a presidential pardon if the need is there).

Also, do we want a "pardon" to be an absolute power of the presidency, perhaps we need to discuss removing the presidential power to pardon people. It's not really democratic and IRL has been used to protect powerful people from prosecution.
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E: -7.42, S: -4.78

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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2023, 02:25:25 AM »
Motioning for final vote
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2023, 05:43:46 AM »
« Edited: April 26, 2023, 05:54:04 AM by Senator Laki »
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PARDON CONTINUITY AMENDMENT

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Article IV, Section 2 of the Atlasian Constitution shall be amended as follows:

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Section 2.

The President shall have the power, except where limited elsewhere by this Constitution,

to grant reprieves and pardons for crimes committed under the laws of the Republic of Atlasia, but the Senate may rescind such pardons by a 2/3 vote provided such rescission occurs within one year of the issuance of the reprieve or pardon

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Amendment Explanation

This amendment removes the ability of the Senate to rescind pardons and reprieves granted by the President after one (1) year to prevent bills of attainder.

A final vote is now open. Senators, please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.
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Lakigigar
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E: -7.42, S: -4.78

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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2023, 05:53:04 AM »
Aye
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E: -7.42, S: -4.78

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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2023, 04:32:55 AM »
Bill passes 11-2-1-4
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Lakigigar
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E: -7.42, S: -4.78

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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2023, 04:34:08 AM »
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PARDON CONTINUITY AMENDMENT

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Article IV, Section 2 of the Atlasian Constitution shall be amended as follows:

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Section 2.

The President shall have the power, except where limited elsewhere by this Constitution,

to grant reprieves and pardons for crimes committed under the laws of the Republic of Atlasia, but the Senate may rescind such pardons by a 2/3 vote provided such rescission occurs within one year of the issuance of the reprieve or pardon

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Amendment Explanation

This amendment removes the ability of the Senate to rescind pardons and reprieves granted by the President after one (1) year to prevent bills of attainder.

Passed 11-2-1-4 in the Atlasian Senate assembled.

- Laki Deputy PPT
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E: -7.42, S: -4.78

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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2023, 12:04:07 PM »
It was brought to my attention this amendment needed 12 votes

Amendment fails 11-2-1-4
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