Russia-Ukraine war and related tensions Megathread

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While i don't often agree with all pro-Ukraine statements, it's becoming clear to me who in this case is the agressor. Putin lives in a 10th world century ideal where he thinks Kiev belongs to Russia because it's where the Russian civilisation started 1000 years ago. What happened in the past, happened. I think it is time to move on. We live in the 21st century. If every country wants to take back what was once supposed to be theirs, you're gonna have a lot of wars, and Russia theirselves will have a lot of wars too, because Japan & Finland also have territories in Russia which was actually theirs.

I believe in diplomacy and in peace, but it is increasingly becoming clear Putin doesn't care for that at all, and that he also doesn't care about human suffering, as long they're no Russians. Putin is proving right now why NATO is needed. I wasn't supportive of NATO but Putin has proven that we need NATO after all, even today. I wasn't supportive of NATO but that certainly changed in the past weeks.

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Nothing super surprising in the speech, Putin called it treason and said Russia will defend itself. Did not mention Prigozhin by name, oddly.

That's a strategy he always does, to keep name recognition of rivals low.

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https://twitter.com/AstonishingFMan/status/1672506882164944896

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https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1672361605064015875

Ngl, a Belgorod People's Republic would be based

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https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1672512610263080960

Theyre coming for Stalingrad

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Lmao this shows how power can get over someone’s head. This millionaire mercenary believes that he can be the new Russian leader considering he’s “in charge” in the battleground.

People are being naive or blinded by their anti-Putin status quo if they think this guy ruling Russia is better for Ukraine or for the world. Keep the nuclear weapons away from the Wagner Group pls.

I don’t want him ruling Russia. Or Putin ruling Russia. What I want is chaos. Destruction of the Russian regime. Preferably in a game of thrones style free for all where Putin and all his bois end up offing eachother.

I guess you’ll have to move on to cheerleading for Xinnie the Pooh next

I am sorry but this is beyond Moronic given how many nuclear weapons Russia has . Do you want rogue extremist groups to suddenly get access to nuclear weapons because that would just be a disaster for the world .

How is the Putin regime not a rogue extremist group lol

I mean look at the alternatives:

- Wagner Group

- Russian Hardliners that make Putin look sane

- Chechen Terrorists

- Other Russian Seperatists


Do you really want nukes to fall into the hands of one of these 4 groups

if you call chechnya terrorists than ukrainians are also terrorists for fighting for their independence.

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Lmao this shows how power can get over someone’s head. This millionaire mercenary believes that he can be the new Russian leader considering he’s “in charge” in the battleground.

People are being naive or blinded by their anti-Putin status quo if they think this guy ruling Russia is better for Ukraine or for the world. Keep the nuclear weapons away from the Wagner Group pls.

I don’t want him ruling Russia. Or Putin ruling Russia. What I want is chaos. Destruction of the Russian regime. Preferably in a game of thrones style free for all where Putin and all his bois end up offing eachother.

I guess you’ll have to move on to cheerleading for Xinnie the Pooh next

I am sorry but this is beyond Moronic given how many nuclear weapons Russia has . Do you want rogue extremist groups to suddenly get access to nuclear weapons because that would just be a disaster for the world .

How is the Putin regime not a rogue extremist group lol

I mean look at the alternatives:

- Wagner Group

- Russian Hardliners that make Putin look sane

- Chechen Terrorists

- Other Russian Seperatists


Do you really want nukes to fall into the hands of one of these 4 groups

if you call chechnya terrorists than ukrainians are also terrorists for fighting for their independence.

This is comparison is beyond absurd in every possible way. Chechnya was led by radical Islamists and would have been a complete breeding ground for terrorism if they ever became a nation and its good they lost. Second comparing an nation that has been independent for more than 3 decades and has been internationally recognized as so to a region of an existing country that wants to become its own country is completely absurd as well.

Lastly I never said Chechnya as a whole, I said Chechen Terrorists because if Russia falls into anarchy , then there is no doubt that terrorist groups in Chechnya will try to get some of those nukes.

you're similar to those people who see putin as an ally because they're islamophobes.

Ukraine had to fight for their independence at some point too. It's not like "they grant you just independence". I mean America also had to fight for independence at some point.

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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672528961811750917?

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https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1672535110791340033

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1672493129818095618

LUKASHENKO FLED TO TURKEY

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https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1672542532234797057

https://twitter.com/SmartUACat/status/1672541617469763586

https://twitter.com/region776/status/1672548945267154944

Truck and civilians being killed. Latter is not a wagner column but also something civilians.

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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1672551944039145474

Mixed reception of wagner troops in Rostov. Some civilians are helping the soldiers reportedly, others are peacefully asking them to leave the city.

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In several places fighting is reported

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1672535547712094208

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https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1672557566411382787

Explosion at HQ of southern military district of Russia in Rostov

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https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1672551962683015168

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Latvia closes their border to Russia:
https://twitter.com/edgarsrinkevics/status/1672559389721391109

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1672549269776244736

Poland puts military at high alert.

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https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1672580839484407811

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https://twitter.com/Heroiam_Slava/status/1672586075208810497

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1672572459076206592

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1672589413694537730

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https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1672590500254081024

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1672586075485741057

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1672577452357427200

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1672587576690065414

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This eve, the battle of Moscow might start, it's a 4 hour drive.

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https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1672592477440688130

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Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but Wagner defecting from Russia will have disastrous effects on Russia's global power projection. Not an insignificant chance that Russian influence in much of West Africa simply collapses in the coming weeks.

esp if Wagner withdraws troops from there

It also would create issues in some countries that rely on Wagner for their defence (think of Mali for instance).

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Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but Wagner defecting from Russia will have disastrous effects on Russia's global power projection. Not an insignificant chance that Russian influence in much of West Africa simply collapses in the coming weeks.

esp if Wagner withdraws troops from there

It also would create issues in some countries that rely on Wagner for their defence (think of Mali for instance).

Imagine what African leaders who have gone to both Russia and Ukraine and have had done business with Wagner feel about all of this. Just put yourself in their heads for a moment...

Thats true. For them this is not a good development.

Might allow radical islamist extremist groups to advance in Sahel region and Syria also again.

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https://twitter.com/GoldingBF/status/1672591633542524928

Some support for Wagner in Rostov.

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https://twitter.com/WarFrontline/status/1672585484768256001

This evening we will see a battle for Moscow.

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Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but Wagner defecting from Russia will have disastrous effects on Russia's global power projection. Not an insignificant chance that Russian influence in much of West Africa simply collapses in the coming weeks.

esp if Wagner withdraws troops from there

It also would create issues in some countries that rely on Wagner for their defence (think of Mali for instance).

Is it possible France might re-intervene in Mali if this happens?

No idea.

Future will tell