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Lakigigar
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« on: November 19, 2019, 10:33:33 AM »

Austria: Michael Ludwig (SPO), age 68
Belgium: Diana Nikolic (MR), age 51
France: Arnaud Montebourg (PS), age 67
Germany: Jens Spahn (CDU), age 49
Ireland: Leo Varadkar (FG), age 50
Italy: Carlo Calenda (PD), age 56
Netherlands: Carola Schouten (CU), age 52
Russia: Sergey Kiriyenko (Independent), age 67
Spain: Maite Pagazaurtundúa (Cs), age 64
United Kingdom: Tom Tugendhat (Conservative), age 56

Lol, never heard of Diana Nikolic.
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Lakigigar
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2019, 03:58:26 PM »

Austria: OVP - FPO
Belgium: Bart De Wever (N-VA) in a coalition with Open VLD / MR / Ecolo / Green
France: Marine Le Pen / National Rally
Germany: As always CDU
Ireland: Sinn Fein
Italy: Someone from Lega in a coalition with Fratelli D'Italia, Forza Italia and Five Star Movement.
Netherlands: PVV - FvD coalition
Russia: A United Russia follower
Spain: PP + Vox + C's + new right-wing party.
UK: Someone from the Conservative Party
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2020, 08:08:59 AM »
« Edited: April 13, 2020, 08:17:43 AM by I'm a Bernie Bro but let's unite behind Biden »

Who's in power?

USA: GOP (right-wing populist, less religious but more EU far-right influences)
UK: Conservative (right-wing populist)
France: NR (far-right)
Belgium: N-VA + Open VLD + MR + Green + Ecolo (conservative + liberal + greens)
Germany: CDU + Grunen (CDU conservativer than now with greens)
Austria: OVP + Grunen (Conservative + Greens)
Spain: PP + Vox (extreme far-right & authoritarian, more than Hungary now, basically filled with Franco apologists)
Portugal: PS + BE + PAN (left-wing)
Netherlands: CDU + CDA + D66 + GroenLinks + PvdA + SP (unstable center-left)
Iceland: Left-Green + Pirates + Icelandic Socialist Party + SD (far-left)
Sweden: SD + V + Miljopartiet (left-wing)
Finland: True Finns (right-wing populist)
Italy: Lega + FdI (right-wing populist to far-right)
Russia: United Russia (Still Putin unfortunately)
Eastern Europe: right-wing or populist or far-right, no exceptions
Turkey: IYI + CHP

It's hard to see remarkable changes actually. I think this is a decade for the right, but also a good one for the far-left. I think Spain will go to Poland / Hungary conditions, while I believe France and Italy will see a more populist variant rising.

Where do i see huge change, probably India, country most likely to see a communist party rising to power.
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2020, 11:35:37 AM »

The hot take on this is basically that "Republicans(or their variants) are going to keep winning forever".
In Europe yes. In America, i expect 2029 to be the first or second term of a populist GOP president. The days that the far-right unfortunately can't take power are over, and conditions will only get better as the most stable generation the elderly will die out, while the most critical and populist generation stand up.
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2023, 06:32:20 PM »
« Edited: September 24, 2023, 06:35:27 PM by The $0.19 Plan to invade Iran 🇧🇪❤️🇺🇦 »

Who's in power?

USA: GOP (right-wing populist, less religious but more EU far-right influences)
UK: Conservative (right-wing populist)
France: NR (far-right)
Belgium: N-VA + Open VLD + MR + Green + Ecolo (conservative + liberal + greens)
Germany: CDU + Grunen (CDU conservativer than now with greens)
Austria: OVP + Grunen (Conservative + Greens)
Spain: PP + Vox (extreme far-right & authoritarian, more than Hungary now, basically filled with Franco apologists)
Portugal: PS + BE + PAN (left-wing)
Netherlands: CDU + CDA + D66 + GroenLinks + PvdA + SP (unstable center-left)
Iceland: Left-Green + Pirates + Icelandic Socialist Party + SD (far-left)
Sweden: SD + V + Miljopartiet (left-wing)
Finland: True Finns (right-wing populist)
Italy: Lega + FdI (right-wing populist to far-right)
Russia: United Russia (Still Putin unfortunately)
Eastern Europe: right-wing or populist or far-right, no exceptions
Turkey: IYI + CHP

It's hard to see remarkable changes actually. I think this is a decade for the right, but also a good one for the far-left. I think Spain will go to Poland / Hungary conditions, while I believe France and Italy will see a more populist variant rising.

Where do i see huge change, probably India, country most likely to see a communist party rising to power.

Oh I would love most of this and it does not seem too unrealistic.

Although I would put for Sweden as SD/Moderates right to far-right coalition as it is now Netherlands as a general broad church big tent anti-establishment coalition of Omtzigt/BBB and maybe a VVD or JA21 influence as well.

Portugal and Ireland may be the only EU nations with significant leftist governments and yes SF in Ireland.
I would try and add for this list Canada with a right-wing populist Conservative government.

This is a post from three years old, so some things probably are less likely and others seem close to what it would be like.

I agree with you on Sweden. It seems like the social democrats are even there in decline. Probably something similar to the low countries or other Germanic countries seem like a good bet.

Tories don't do all that well, but who knows by 2029, they might already be back in power.

Netherlands is very unstable and changes like every year, almost impossible to predict.

Agree with Portugal, though even there the right wing will be growing. Ireland is weird to predict, but I suppose SF will not be much weaker than it is now, and in Northern Ireland, SF might actually gain ground.

For Italy, i'm less sure if there's a role for Lega in the future, maybe as part of an FdI coalition, but it seems like FdI might be heading towards one of the first stable Italian governments in decades. Meloni really does a good job heading that country, even if i personally disagree with her views, she seems to have consolidated and stabilized some of Italy's political instability, being a probably very influential force on the European right, including Eastern Europe.

Given Italy's similar challenges with rapid population decline and ageing, as well as it being somewhat more socially conservative (for that same reason maybe), i think Italy might grow/build closer ties to Eastern European nations. And given Eastern Europe's voice is bound to grow when Ukraine joins the EU, with the departure of the UK and the focus from west to east (with political mandates), overall the EU likely also trends/shifts right wing.

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