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EnglishPete
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« on: October 02, 2016, 06:55:14 PM »

The guy obviously is doing lots of cocaine based on his Twitter feed, so all that needs to be done is have it arranged so that he gets a tainted batch.
So your thought here is 'Trump is such a scumbag. If he gets to power he could be like Putin. Putin is a terrible fascist who does things like kill journalists he doesn't like'

There might be a scoop coming out that would be damaging to Clinton

'Quick, lets kill a journalist we don't like. We don't want to risk the Presidency of a man who might possibly do things like kill journalists he doesn't like'
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2016, 07:12:55 PM »

The guy obviously is doing lots of cocaine based on his Twitter feed, so all that needs to be done is have it arranged so that he gets a tainted batch.
So your thought here is 'Trump is such a scumbag. If he gets to power he could be like Putin. Putin is a terrible fascist who does things like kill journalists he doesn't like'

There might be a scoop coming out that would be damaging to Clinton

'Quick, lets kill a journalist we don't like. We don't want to risk the Presidency of a man who might possibly do things like kill journalists he doesn't like'

Assange isn't a journalist. He's a pasty coward who should be in jail for rape.
The two categories are not necessarily exclusive of one another. Just because you think he's a terrible person, even if he really is a terrible person, doesn't mean that he's not a journalist, clearly he is.
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2016, 08:38:08 PM »

The guy obviously is doing lots of cocaine based on his Twitter feed, so all that needs to be done is have it arranged so that he gets a tainted batch.
So your thought here is 'Trump is such a scumbag. If he gets to power he could be like Putin. Putin is a terrible fascist who does things like kill journalists he doesn't like'

There might be a scoop coming out that would be damaging to Clinton

'Quick, lets kill a journalist we don't like. We don't want to risk the Presidency of a man who might possibly do things like kill journalists he doesn't like'

Assange isn't a journalist. He's a pasty coward who should be in jail for rape.
The two categories are not necessarily exclusive of one another. Just because you think he's a terrible person, even if he really is a terrible person, doesn't mean that he's not a journalist, clearly he is.

He isn't even remotely a journalist. Posting hacked documents online is not journalism. Journalism is actually writing articles.
Right so its writing articles that makes someone a journalist. So any blogger who writes articles on his or her blog is a journalist but someone like Lester Holt or Anderson Cooper who talk and interview people on TV rather than write articles is not a journalist.

Is that it or are you going to come up with some elaborate definition of the term 'journalist' that includes the people you like but excludes those you don't?
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EnglishPete
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2016, 01:58:06 AM »

You don't know what a journalist is. It is actually requires reporting real news, not forging documents to influence elections. You are ignorant.
What Julian Assange has been accused of doing, what he admits to doing, is publishing leaked information rather than forging it. That's kind of one of the things journalists do.

As for influencing elections writers working for the Jeff Bezos Propaganda Blog (also known as the Washington Post) and the Carlos Slim/Ochs Sulzberger Propaganda Blog (also know as the New York Times) have written articles openly admitting that they're biasing their coverage of this election in the hope of influencing it, something that should be obvious to anyone who reads the political coverage on those blogs.

You're floundering around to find a definition of 'journalist' that doesn't simply say "people who work for media outlets I like (e.g. the Jeff Bezos Propaganda Blog, the Clinton News Network etc) =journalists, people who work for media outlets I don't like (e.g. Wikileaks, perhaps Fox News and Breitbart as well)= not journalists.
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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2016, 07:13:10 AM »

Its being reported that Hillary Clinton enquired about assassinating a journalist who was leaking things she didn't want leaked



but of course that's completely different from anything Putin might do to journalists and its Trump not Clinton who is the threat to journalistic freedom.

And how about the journalists who published Trump's leaked Tax returns. What should be their punishment. After all publishing leaked documents doesn't fall under the definition of 'journalism' according to some people here.

Or is the real difference that you consider media outlets that you agree with ideologically (e.g. NYT, WaPo etc) to be 'proper journalism' whereas those you don't agree with ideologically (e.g. Wikileaks, Breitbart) you think are not proper journalism and shouldn't be covered by freedom of the press.

In other words you want freedom of the press for media outlets that agree with you. Funnily enough Putin wants the same thing in Russia.
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