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JJC
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« on: January 26, 2017, 04:09:11 PM »

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Good on President Nieto! Mexico shouldn't pay for anything; it's not their job, their responsibility, nor is it right to make a significantly poorer country pay to build a wall meant to humiliate and lock out its people because of a bunch of racists, xenophobes, and fascist gringos who scapegoat Mexicans for political gain while exploiting their labor. Walls are, even in principle, absurd and counterproductive. Our world is thankfully becoming more interconnected, economically and socially - which is a good thing. Walls are meant to hurt that progress and this one in particular is aimed at an overinflated, racially motivated "threat" of undocumented Mexican immigrants.


Every single thing you said in this paragraph is absolutely stupid.

And yes, Mexico is absolutely responsible for the havoc they've wrought on the border. They decided they were going to deport their poverty to us. It's their drug cartels coming into our country and killing/raping our people.

Your fake shouts of racism are as stupid and ineffectual as ever.

That out of the way, I can't think of any possible situation in which cancelling the meeting helps Mexico and hurt the US, both economically and politically. America holds all of the cards here. Perhaps Mexico got used to being able to exploit us due to dems wanting to import their citizens for votes, but those days are over.

We don't have to take this crap from Mexico anymore.
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2017, 04:35:20 PM »

Dear Branch Trumpidians: point to me how the wall solves the problem of illegal immigration when the illegal immigration population has been dropping already due to economic forces thanks to the Great Recession and - someone help me here, do I just link to the NYT article about the wall and the tunnels making the wall ineffective? Do I lose fewer brain cells this way in arguing about how ineffective the wall is?



- Tens of thousands of people illegally cross the border every year. Every single job that an illegal obtains is a job taken away from an American. Every dollar from social programs spent on them (which amounts to billions) is a dollar taken away by American citizens.

- Walls work. And they work well. When Hungary constructed a border fence last year, illegal immigration dropped by 95%. Sure, you will never stop all of it. But to suggest that a wall will be ineffective is ludicrous. 20-30 million people will not get through the border as they've had before.

- Building a wall makes it exceptionally harder for drug cartels to come into our country with their drugs. Sure, they can build tunnels, but how much do you think drugs on our streets will be reduced if the flow is brought down to a trickle instead of a flood? As of right now, any drug cartel can just walk across many parts of our borders undisturbed.

- Also, every tunnel that we locate and destroy would set the cartels back dramatically (it takes a lot of effort to build them and time cost money). I highly doubt that the drug cartel business would be much profitable anymore. Best case scenario is that they fall apart due to internal struggles as the funds dry up.

And hell, if that happens, MAYBE they would no longer have such a strangle hold on Mexican politicians (the country is unbelievably corrupt). Perhaps then with drug cartels vanquished they can focus on taking care of their own people and building up their economy.
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