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Mike88
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« on: January 11, 2024, 07:46:38 PM »

George Osborne claims he has inside info the election is being planned for November 14th.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/jan/11/general-election-likely-to-take-place-on-14-november-says-george-osborne

Not sure why it's being so dragged out, if this is true. The result will essentially be a done deal at this point. Whatever keeps the Tories in power for whatever time they have left, I guess.

I think that someone wrote, I believe in the Internation discussion thread, that the "plan" is banking on a Trump's win in the US election and then the Tories would campaign on the "stability card" in face of unprecedented times to win the election. Of course, this has one major risk: Trump could lose and then what? What's your pitch, Tories?
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Mike88
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2024, 01:27:27 PM »

Why did they put a picture of their January poll?? It doesn't make sense.
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Mike88
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2024, 02:26:15 PM »
« Edited: February 25, 2024, 02:32:58 PM by Mike88 »

Who is this even for, at this stage?

I think this is directly to the Conservative electorate. Polling and forecasts, not to mention the image this government gives, are so bad for them that they fear the Tory electorate will just skip this election and not vote. So, they need to send "propaganda" saying "look, it's close", "(please) go vote, we still can win this".
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Mike88
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2024, 07:13:17 AM »

The Postwar norm was that a standard parliament should be four years with the fifth year as a 'reserve'.

Speaking of, today is the 50th anniversary of the February 1974 election.

The famous "Who Governs Britain?" election. And which voters responded, "Not you, Ted."
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Mike88
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2024, 05:59:08 AM »

The UK needed a CIS type polling company to put the Tories like 3 points ahead of Labour, and in the next day, Sunak would call an election. Wink
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Mike88
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2024, 10:42:39 AM »

The weather in London today looks gloomy as the Tory's prospects for this election.
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Mike88
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2024, 10:54:29 AM »

The thread title can be edited now I suppose.

I shall start a new one once a formal announcement is made

No need, in my view. You can use this one and just change the title.
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Mike88
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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2024, 01:50:03 PM »

One possible reason (amongst others) for going now and for the sudden announcement (let’s not call it snap) is to avoid giving Reform time to get a proper campaign together and candidates in place across the country. Won’t change the end result, but a more hastily organised Reform effort might help save the furniture in some places.

Probably, but wanting to end their misery is also a possible reason.
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Mike88
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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2024, 05:40:16 AM »

Under UK rules, can Sunak remain PM until 4 July but the Tories presenting another PM candidate for the election?
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Mike88
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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2024, 06:05:19 AM »
« Edited: May 25, 2024, 06:10:09 AM by Mike88 »

Hmm, right... So no chance of happening what is quite common in other European countries, where the incumbent PM remains as caretaker but the party in power presents another candidate. Plus, yeah, there is no time for this kind of process, 40 days until election day.
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Mike88
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2024, 09:14:38 AM »

Kuenssberg eughh. First time I won't be watching BBC. I will tune in to see the exit poll (because it's tradition) and then I shall switch to Sky.

I believe the exit poll will be, as it has been for some years now, a joint BBC/ITV/Sky thing. So, the exit poll will be same in BBC, ITV and Sky news.
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Mike88
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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2024, 05:50:32 PM »

The chief problem with the set-up of this debate is that it’s far too short - Etchingham keeps cutting them off before they’ve finished speaking and because of the rushed nature of the slots they have to keep interrupting each other to get the last word in. It should be two hours minimum and there should be more room for back-and-forth between the two.

I think that's a problem in almost every debate nowadays. Moderators want simple cut answers in topics that are not that simple to resume in 5/6 words. Be lucky you guys don't have 30-minute debates. Wink
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Mike88
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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2024, 06:46:33 PM »

Just a question: Does the UK's NHS has partnerships with private hospitals?
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Mike88
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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2024, 07:33:04 PM »
« Edited: June 04, 2024, 07:38:22 PM by Mike88 »

So, very similar, if not equal, to other countries. So, Starmer's answer was a bit nonsense. Anyway, I've watched the debate on YouTube, and it wasn't that impressive. Don't think that Stamer was that bad, he was much calmer and put together than Sunak, who, in return, was much more combative and fiery, but, that's understandable when your're 20 points behind in the polls.

There might be a degree of confusion here, so in order to clear it up at once: there is no parallel private healthcare system in the United Kingdom. Private hospitals exist, but they largely perform routine procedures and minor and routine surgery: for anything more serious there is no option other than the NHS, unless one happens to be wealthy enough to go the London Clinic as Royalty do. The doctors themselves are usually NHS employees doing a bit of private work for extra cash: this was part of the bargain Aneurin Bevan struck with the British Medical Association to avoid a doctors strike, of which he said 'I stuffed their mouths with gold'.

So, if you have a health emergency, let's say late in the evening, you only have a NHS emergency available? You cannot go to a private hospital and be treated?
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Mike88
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« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2024, 07:55:11 PM »

So, if you have a health emergency, let's say late in the evening, you only have a NHS emergency available? You cannot go to a private hospital and be treated?

If you tried to book into a private hospital under such circumstances, then they would only transfer you to the nearest A&E department (which would likely not be far).

Ah, right, then that's different from other EU countries.
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