COVID-19 Megathread 5: The Trumps catch COVID-19

[Hollywood]

Everything is fine.

https://twitter.com/javimorgado/status/1283531072530153472

Oh no...    If DeSantis and the federal government don't take immediate and stern action, this is going to get disastrously ugly very quickly.

It might already be too late, given the lag between infections and it getting to the stage that they need ICU care.

^This. The appropriate time for action was two weeks ago. If DeSantis doesn’t act now, Florida could reach a level of suffering not seen since Wuhan in February, or Lombardy in March.

In regards to masks and schools reopening, I tend to agree with you Democrats.  There's no reason they should have sent kids to summer camp either. Also, there's definitely a hotspots which were stimulated by businesses opening up.  Myrtle Beach comes to mind. It's just stupid behavior.

However, a huge portion of the current outbreak in Florida, Texas, and California resulted from farming facilities and communities with large populations of hispanic migrant workers, some of which travelled from Northern areas for harvesting.  April was the end of the growing season in Florida, so many people just decided to go back to their homes in Collier, Lee, and western Miami Dade County. The town of Immakolee (24,000) has seen more cases than numerous cities with populations over 100,000.  All the migratory, rural areas and towns within 25 miles of Immakolee have double the Covid cases of Fort Lauderdale. If you look at a time lapse of hotspots in Miami, FL, you'll see those areas start in inland areas of South Florida and expand towards West Miami, Pembroke Pines, Hollywood, and Davie.  The areas with lesser rates of infections are bits and pieces along the coast.  The other migrants went North to other farmhouses in the Southeast, as indicated on the map.  The media and politicians are just ignoring this issues, but that didn't help anybody. We could have got them supplies and testing.  
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Traditional-Farmworker-Migration-Streams-generalized_fig1_334710206

Essentially, the only way to stop the spread is to ban interstate travel, and that's an even touchier subject for everybody. But look at this map of the Spanish Flu spread.  All the hotspots and migratory patterns are identical to the Global map of confirmed cases, and this thing is now in all the climate zones living in a diverse human population with other viruses and bacterias.  This is almost guaranteed to mutate, recombinate and whatevr.  The more it spreads, the more it evolves.  The worst cases scenario is that it teams up with friends to form a hybrid virus.  
https://africacenter.org/spotlight/lessons-1918-1919-spanish-flu-africa/

[Hollywood]

Everything is fine.

https://twitter.com/javimorgado/status/1283531072530153472

Oh no...    If DeSantis and the federal government don't take immediate and stern action, this is going to get disastrously ugly very quickly.

It might already be too late, given the lag between infections and it getting to the stage that they need ICU care.

^This. The appropriate time for action was two weeks ago. If DeSantis doesn’t act now, Florida could reach a level of suffering not seen since Wuhan in February, or Lombardy in March.

In regards to masks and schools reopening, I tend to agree with you Democrats.  There's no reason they should have sent kids to summer camp either. Also, there's definitely a hotspots which were stimulated by businesses opening up.  Myrtle Beach comes to mind. It's just stupid behavior.

However, a huge portion of the current outbreak in Florida, Texas, and California resulted from farming facilities and communities with large populations of hispanic migrant workers, some of which travelled from Northern areas for harvesting.  April was the end of the growing season in Florida, so many people just decided to go back to their homes in Collier, Lee, and western Miami Dade County. The town of Immakolee (24,000) has seen more cases than numerous cities with populations over 100,000.  All the migratory, rural areas and towns within 25 miles of Immakolee have double the Covid cases of Fort Lauderdale. If you look at a time lapse of hotspots in Miami, FL, you'll see those areas start in inland areas of South Florida and expand towards West Miami, Pembroke Pines, Hollywood, and Davie.  The areas with lesser rates of infections are bits and pieces along the coast.  The other migrants went North to other farmhouses in the Southeast, as indicated on the map.  The media and politicians are just ignoring this issues, but that didn't help anybody. We could have got them supplies and testing.  
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Traditional-Farmworker-Migration-Streams-generalized_fig1_334710206

Essentially, the only way to stop the spread is to ban interstate travel, and that's an even touchier subject for everybody. But look at this map of the Spanish Flu spread.  All the hotspots and migratory patterns are identical to the Global map of confirmed cases, and this thing is now in all the climate zones living in a diverse human population with other viruses and bacterias.  This is almost guaranteed to mutate, recombinate and whatevr.  The more it spreads, the more it evolves.  The worst cases scenario is that it teams up with friends to form a hybrid virus.  
https://africacenter.org/spotlight/lessons-1918-1919-spanish-flu-africa/

We should have banned interstate travel where possible back in March or April.

Problem is that's not feasible in a lot of places. How do you close the border between New York, Connecticut and New Jersey? Or between Maryland, Virginia and DC?

I'm willing to try anything that puts barriers between people attempting to gather in crowds or tightly enclosed areas, while allowing people to work at businesses.  I'd put checkpoints on highways and main streets leading to other states, and close down beaches with giant spikes.   It's not easy with this political climate and some people are going to get around.  You can't have hundreds of thousands of white people going to Myrtle Beach and Trump events, and millions of BLM guys and anarchists traveling to cities to protest with locals.  This should be the number one issue for everybody.  

[Hollywood]

Everything is fine.

https://twitter.com/javimorgado/status/1283531072530153472

Oh no...    If DeSantis and the federal government don't take immediate and stern action, this is going to get disastrously ugly very quickly.

It might already be too late, given the lag between infections and it getting to the stage that they need ICU care.

^This. The appropriate time for action was two weeks ago. If DeSantis doesn’t act now, Florida could reach a level of suffering not seen since Wuhan in February, or Lombardy in March.

In regards to masks and schools reopening, I tend to agree with you Democrats.  There's no reason they should have sent kids to summer camp either. Also, there's definitely a hotspots which were stimulated by businesses opening up.  Myrtle Beach comes to mind. It's just stupid behavior.

However, a huge portion of the current outbreak in Florida, Texas, and California resulted from farming facilities and communities with large populations of hispanic migrant workers, some of which travelled from Northern areas for harvesting.  April was the end of the growing season in Florida, so many people just decided to go back to their homes in Collier, Lee, and western Miami Dade County. The town of Immakolee (24,000) has seen more cases than numerous cities with populations over 100,000.  All the migratory, rural areas and towns within 25 miles of Immakolee have double the Covid cases of Fort Lauderdale. If you look at a time lapse of hotspots in Miami, FL, you'll see those areas start in inland areas of South Florida and expand towards West Miami, Pembroke Pines, Hollywood, and Davie.  The areas with lesser rates of infections are bits and pieces along the coast.  The other migrants went North to other farmhouses in the Southeast, as indicated on the map.  The media and politicians are just ignoring this issues, but that didn't help anybody. We could have got them supplies and testing.  
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Traditional-Farmworker-Migration-Streams-generalized_fig1_334710206

Essentially, the only way to stop the spread is to ban interstate travel, and that's an even touchier subject for everybody. But look at this map of the Spanish Flu spread.  All the hotspots and migratory patterns are identical to the Global map of confirmed cases, and this thing is now in all the climate zones living in a diverse human population with other viruses and bacterias.  This is almost guaranteed to mutate, recombinate and whatevr.  The more it spreads, the more it evolves.  The worst cases scenario is that it teams up with friends to form a hybrid virus.  
https://africacenter.org/spotlight/lessons-1918-1919-spanish-flu-africa/

We should have banned interstate travel where possible back in March or April.

Problem is that's not feasible in a lot of places. How do you close the border between New York, Connecticut and New Jersey? Or between Maryland, Virginia and DC?

By where possible, I thought it was assumed that cities straddling the border don’t count.

Yeah.  Good point.  We can't really turn DC into a Polish Ghetto.  We'll give DC access to Virginia.