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Hollywood
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« on: March 02, 2017, 01:06:06 AM »

I knew it. The man who is setting up an agency to publish a list of crimes by immigrants is not going to support a path to legal status, even if it does prevent these people from voting.

I disagree.  An intelligent person always takes a strong bargaining position to start a negotiation.  I don't think Americans are against a path to legalization.  In fact, I think Republicans would support a path to legalization, as evidenced by Reagan.  There needs to be some sort of mechanism to prevent the mass illegal immigration to the United States that was promised in the 80s.  

Trump is correct about the open borders.  The crime that has flooded here from Mexico and other Central America countries is absurd.  Take an hour or two to investigate the situation.  Do you really think that illegal immigrants commit less crimes than citizens?  Bull****.  Watch an episode of Gangland.  The most violent gangs in America are comprised of illegal immigrants.  

Today, a Democrat claimed that 5% of crime in this country is committed by illegal immigrants. Wrong.  5% of incarcerations in federal and state prisons equates to illegal immigrants.  This stat is nonsense, because many states do not accurately categorize inmates as legal or illegal citizens.  However, the Federal Government finds that 22% of inmates are illegal immigrants.  Why?  Because the Federal Government deals with the accurate determination of legal status.  
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Hollywood
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2017, 01:09:42 AM »

I don't see them as trivialities, but they came here illegally.  It's irrational for them to expect that they somehow end up with U.S. citizenship at the end of the day.

Well, if you lack the imagination to think of any other sanction, incentive, or compromise then of course it would seem irrational.

I can think of other sanctions, but they'd be even more draconian.  Simply granting amnesty as if they they were a legal immigrant as of the date amnesty is granted is not an viable option.  For that matter unless we do something to make illegal immigration less attractive in the future (and no I don't mean building that useless wall) there's little point in doing any sort of amnesty.  Personally, I favor making E-verify a requirement for all employers nationwide and considerably upping the penalties for failing to do so.

Fine business owners $10,000 for every illegal immigrant they hire.  That'll put a stop to it.  Illegal Immigration and amnesty is a policy that is supported by corporations and small businesses that directly benefit from illegal labor.  It has been demonstrated to harm the American work and businesses that play by the rules.  Make it completely impossible for such arrangements to being and proceed.  Kill it from the economic root.
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