What if we bought some land in Crimea after the war is over?

[Lord Halifax]

Why don't we just nuke the whole world? Then there won't be anyone left to threaten us.

nuking the part that's outside of the Americas should be enough. Who needs the Old World anyway, when we've already upgraded to the New World.

[Lord Halifax]

I have the belief most people on Talk Elections are not interested in stopping war.

Ironic that the same kind of people usually have the opinion the treaty of Versailles was too harsh. Yeah lol, without hindsight. Not a chance you would've actually thought that.

the treaty of Versailles was far too MILD. Germany should have been dissolved and all German states should have been completely demilitarized.

[Lord Halifax]

I have the belief most people on Talk Elections are not interested in stopping war.

Ironic that the same kind of people usually have the opinion the treaty of Versailles was too harsh. Yeah lol, without hindsight. Not a chance you would've actually thought that.

the treaty of Versailles was far too MILD. Germany should have been dissolved and all German states should have been completely demilitarized.

Not sure if you're trolling, i assume so.

But punitive treaties only stimulate more war & conquering.

not if you take away the capacity. IRL the Allies allowed Germany to keep a unified state with enough population and industry to be a great power and a reduced military that could (and did) serve as the core for future rearmament. Dissolve Germany into its post-Napoleonic states, dissolve Prussia into five smaller states, and ban the German states (incl. Austria) from having any kind of military or arms industry and you take away the capacity. Then let France and Britain act as guarantors of the German states' territorial integrity.

[Lord Halifax]

I agree to an extent. Forcibly breaking up Germany wasn't feasible after either World War

It happened all the same. Even if you disregard East and West Germany, the lands lost elsewhere which weren't previously annexed by the Nazis were quite significant. Some of the areas which were annexed by the Nazis would likely have voted for annexation at the time (Austria), and they were broken off, too.

With both Germany and Russia I am referring to the "core" nation, not peripheral bits.

Yes there was the division of the former from around 1950-90, but that was a product of the Cold War - it was not the original intention of the Allies come the end of WW2.

Depends what you mean by "original". Plenty of plans for dividing Germany were discussed. For a time Churchill wanted to carve out a South German state consisting of Bavaria, BaWü and Austria and unite it with Hungary in a Confederation of the Danube, but the Soviets weren't willing to give up Hungary, and in addition to the three way split in the Morgenthan plan (South, North and an International Zone in the NW) FDR considered both a seven state and five state solution. It also played a part that the British and American zones were swapped so the US got the South in order to be closer to Italy and France, which was originally intended to be the British zone.