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Lord Halifax
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« on: June 07, 2023, 08:56:56 AM »


If Germany had sensible immigration laws (including birthright citizenship), there wouldn't be any "third-generation Turkish immigrants" voting in Turkish elections. They would have assimilated into German society and not be Turkish citizens.

Turkey gives citizenship to anyone born to a Turkish parent (or parents) abroad regardless of the other nationalities the person might acquire at birth, so it doesn't matter if they have German citizenship or not as long as their parents haven't actively renounced their Turkish citizenship.

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Lord Halifax
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2023, 11:16:45 AM »


If Germany had sensible immigration laws (including birthright citizenship), there wouldn't be any "third-generation Turkish immigrants" voting in Turkish elections. They would have assimilated into German society and not be Turkish citizens.

Turkey gives citizenship to anyone born to a Turkish parent (or parents) abroad regardless of the other nationalities the person might acquire at birth, so it doesn't matter if they have German citizenship or not as long as their parents haven't actively renounced their Turkish citizenship.


Adults with German citizenship would be uninterested in retaining Turkish citizenship. We know this because the exact same thing happens in pretty much every country with birthright citizenship, often at second generation and inevitably by third generation. You have to be a citizen of somewhere, so if where you were born and live your entire life rejects you as a citizen, you'll of course stick with the citizenship of the country that gives you citizenship and all of the baggage that entails.

I suspect the relative size of the Turkish minority in Germany, the strength of Turkish nationalism, Germany being associated with a specific ethnic group and Turkey being so relatively close (the distance between Munich and Istanbul is equivalent to the one between El Paso and Mexico City) will continue to make a difference. There aren't really that many comparable cases, usually one of those factors is absent.
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