UK General Election, June 8th 2017

[ApatheticAustrian]

I laughed pretty hard at how the cartoonist portrayed May.

british cartoonists are monsters lol

cameron always has been a condom.

[ApatheticAustrian]

well, no one can claim the UK pollsters are herding.

i hope may's majority is small.....she tries hard to achieve her own unmaking anyway.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Love these ads. And Labour just keep creating useful material for them.

to be totally fair...isn't corbyn at the point at which nothing his voters hear is going to change their opinion anymore?

it's a pinata like trump and his unfavorable-rates are maxed out. xD

[ApatheticAustrian]

Aren't Jews also overwhelmingly anti-Brexit?

doesn't matter if you look at labour's not-so-subtle "anti-zionism".

[ApatheticAustrian]

I would have thought the Lib Dems would be the ideal party for British Jews. They are pro-Europe socially liberal but relatively pro free market as well. What's not to like?

The Lib Dems are largely non-interventionist, which tends to include tepid feelings about Israel and support for Israel and moreover attracts some of the kind of people who have less savory views on the subject (regardless of the fact that the party itself does not hold such views).

In the US the Republican try to be more pro-Israel than most Israelis are while the Democrats are much more "nuanced" on the Middle East and yet American Jews favour Democrats over Republicans by about a 4 to 1 margin. Why the difference?

Well, most importantly, U.S. Jews aren't UK Jews?

and most importantly us-democrats are not corbyn labourites.

[ApatheticAustrian]

where would one put corbyn on an americanized scale? bernie sanders, hillary clinton, or something in between?

to the left of bernie re: domestic policy AND foreign policy, closer to the left of the 70ies.

tulsi gabbard meets de blasio meets alan grayson.

[ApatheticAustrian]

only 8 points would be a shocker....

[ApatheticAustrian]

young people LOVE corbyn...and are not going to vote.

[ApatheticAustrian]

[ApatheticAustrian]

since i detest both candidates, i would love a hanging parliament.

[ApatheticAustrian]

with the wage stagnation and the rising unemployment and inflation and the decreasing growth, a lacking political mandate would be extra fun for brexit negotiations....

....even while scotland could still create a massive tory-mentum.

[ApatheticAustrian]

to cut the chase, corbyn just bangled his "dukakis death penalty"-question.

doesn't mean this matters a lot since corbyn was "known" as a loon to start with, just could be a final nail in labour's coffin.

i don't say it is fair or logical - it's imho just the truth.

[ApatheticAustrian]

i am pretty sure, yougov is going to be an outlier.

anyway, landslide is over.

[ApatheticAustrian]

well, there IS a pro-labour swing.....

just asking....none of this is helping labour in scotland in any way, eh?

[ApatheticAustrian]

Latest ComRes poll: Conservatives still +12

Westminster voting intention:
CON: 47% (+1)
LAB: 35% (+1)
LDEM: 8% (-)
UKIP: 4% (-)
GRN: 1% (-)
(via @ComRes) Fieldwork: 31 May - 02 June.

So, no SNP?

snp is usually not included in those polls.

[ApatheticAustrian]

i am soooo going to hate the caucus of hyporcrites, who are going to praise may for her small victory as the "reasonable" candidate and a sign, that britan rejects extremism, or something.

[ApatheticAustrian]

the question is not if anybody wants to reject brexit NOW but maybe in 2 years.....

[ApatheticAustrian]

those polls are sooooooo different this time.

i would still argue for a clear but not overwhelming may victory, she got the reliable voters.

[ApatheticAustrian]

if one wants to make a political point, the simple underlined truth is, imho, that even the best security concept can't prevent low-tech assholes.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Who gives a sh*t about politics,

arguably the terrorists.

and the question, how to prevent such stuff in the future, is quite important....

[ApatheticAustrian]

i am pre-hating the "hot takes" how a may victory is going to be a vote against extremism or something.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Who will look more foolish on election day - the Corbynistas or the Very Serious People who a month or two ago were predicting the worst result in history?

could still happen, if the more pessimistic pollsters got it right and the votes are spread in a bad way.

[ApatheticAustrian]

anyone thinks this is going to move ANY votes at all?








Sadiq Khan has spoken for London and our country in standing up to hate. That is how we stop terrorists winning, not by promoting division.
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/871851243022450688



Theresa May: Trump 'wrong' to attack London mayor
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/336353-theresa-may-trump-wrong-to-be-questioning-london-mayor

[ApatheticAustrian]

Labour needs at least 4-5 points more than the tories to be able to  create a coalition gov.

this is only about symbolism and kneecapping may.

@ tender.....only +10 would still be massive tightening.

[ApatheticAustrian]

I'm clear: if human rights laws get in the way of tackling extremism and terrorism, we will change those laws to keep British people safe.
https://twitter.com/theresa_may/status/872181737933217794