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ApatheticAustrian
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« on: February 08, 2017, 11:27:37 AM »

like someone.....i think matt k. lewis...argued, it would maybe be a stronger political move to wait for trump's second SC pick to let the GOP kill the filibuster.

gorsuch is bad for dems but he wouldn't chance the power structure.....if, like rumors go, kennedy retires, that's a totally different animal and no one in fact could hold it against democrats to fight such a power grab with teeth and claws, if republicans try to push through a ted-cruzian-candidate. (this comparison was better when ted cruz was thought of to be in posession of a spine.)
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ApatheticAustrian
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2017, 11:32:45 AM »

truth:

no one effing cares about SC picks and voting patterns, especially not midterm voters.

as if democrats would lose any votes, if they (meaningless) obstruct a SC pick. much too tribalized country for that.
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ApatheticAustrian
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2017, 11:42:35 AM »

You can thank Dirty Harry for that.

nothing at all to rue.

i hope mcconnell is killing the rest of the filibuster so that we are finally liberated from that anachronism.

it was soon clear that the only option for democrats to ever again achieve anything against such a tribalized GOP was either an absolutely majority in both houses and the WH (not very likely) or to do away with the filibuster and let the GOP do their thing...and THEN also force the republicans take the back seat next time.
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ApatheticAustrian
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2017, 12:41:38 PM »

the court is not in synch with the general public...and to a lesser extent, the EC makes sure, the senate and the presidency also aren't.
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ApatheticAustrian
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2017, 01:49:37 PM »

this whole thing btw reminds me that all of that would have never happened, if the consensus of the bush years would have continuted.

bush in fact made recess appointment for open seats...the republicans "solved" this problem through never officially going into recess.

republicans blamed democrats for "court packing"...when they in fact just stopped making compromises and stopped the filling of important position as a whole.

if one party is in power and the other one doesn't want to compromise because it can't anymore....either the party in power surrenders or something breaks.

if you are not able to "move" you are going to break and this brings us to this lovely new situation where the rest of the precious china must also be broken to adapt to the new reality.

#nothingstopsthistrain
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ApatheticAustrian
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2017, 10:54:18 PM »

no virginian politican must imho worry atm about anything regarding taking a mainstream left-ish stance on anything.
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ApatheticAustrian
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2017, 11:22:41 PM »

Flip flopping after a year of saying SCOTUS nominees shouldn't be blocked is a mainstream left-ish stance?

depends on schumer's decision i guess, but after the garland mess, it is obvious that voters don't give a crap about SC obstructionism.

you can call it hypocritical - it would be - and quite meaningless but i don't think it would cost anyone in virginia anything.
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