Ohio leg. passes 6-week abortion ban - VETOED by Kasich; 20-week bill signed

[ApatheticAustrian]

this is the opposite of the usual "late-term"-abortion-talking-point.

if Roe is going to be over-turned.....there will be a backlash.

[ApatheticAustrian]

imho the title "pro-life" is the peak of arrogance, since it automatically renders the other side as "pro-death", which is an easy eay to shut down any kind of argument in the first place.

[ApatheticAustrian]

You would then have to say the same about "pro-choice" with respect to "anti-choice".

you are absolutely correct  - i just figure "anti-choice" sounds less cruel than "anti-life"/pro-death.

besides names.....

imho there is no debate regarding abortion in this country, cause either you are a stinking sexist or - without exaggeration - literally hitler...and you don't argue with sexists or - god save us - hitler.

[ApatheticAustrian]

if you can't do it in super-red-redistan, you can't do it in OH.

[ApatheticAustrian]

This bill doesn't even have a life of the mother exception to it. Yikes!

I'm Pro-Life and i'm against Abortion with no exceptions.

so you are anti-life?

[ApatheticAustrian]

I wouldn't call favoring the classic "3 exceptions" (assuming he holds that position or something similar) anti-life.

i read it like he especially stated that there are no possible exceptions and i think mike agreed to my interpretation.

if it misinterpreted his post, i am deeply sorry - "normal" abortion foes don't get my snark, i just can't stand it if people value the life of the child higher than that of the mother.

[ApatheticAustrian]

if you believe abortion is murder, killing abortion doctors in the act is a good deed.

if you believe that to be true - be my guest but then all those abortion foes are much too nice to abortion supporters like myself, which is why i call their argument bogus.

[ApatheticAustrian]

66% of Americans agree with a twenty week ban. Let's not pretend this is some radical position to take.

depends on state and exceptions, i guess.

[ApatheticAustrian]

if you believe abortion is murder, killing abortion doctors in the act is a good deed.

if you believe that to be true - be my guest but then all those abortion foes are much too nice to abortion supporters like myself, which is why i call their argument bogus.

Nah, we'd much rather live under a consistent ethic of life. No murderer deserves death. The only way to do it successfully is through legal means.

this is a worldview i can philosophically support.

support unborn.

support born.

only god is allowed to give and take lives.

[ApatheticAustrian]

abortions are something much more intimate and much more "necessary" aka connected to the basic needs of societal female life than vices like robbery and murder.

[ApatheticAustrian]

This bill doesn't even have a life of the mother exception to it. Yikes!

The one signed and passed has a life of the mother exception to it. Fake news continues to spread!

the passed one wasn't the reason to make this thread....does the vetoed one have the exception rule? would be more logical for him to talk about that one.