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JA
Jacobin American
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« on: July 07, 2017, 01:48:37 AM »

I 100% support this bill. Why place roadblocks in the way of someone getting an abortion? If they want an abortion, it's better for them, that fetus, and society that they do not keep it. The fewer unwanted children or ones that cannot be adequately provided for, the better off everyone will be. Only a tiny number of women would ever elect to have an abortion unless they felt it was necessary, so making it harder, particularly for low-income women and those underage, is helping what, exactly?
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Jacobin American
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2017, 02:37:32 AM »

I 100% support this bill. Why place roadblocks in the way of someone getting an abortion? If they want an abortion, it's better for them, that fetus, and society that they do not keep it. The fewer unwanted children or ones that cannot be adequately provided for, the better off everyone will be. Only a tiny number of women would ever elect to have an abortion unless they felt it was necessary, so making it harder, particularly for low-income women and those underage, is helping what, exactly?

Cause the government shouldn't be funding morally questionable things(and I'm not talking legislating it just funding them )

There's nothing morally questionable about abortion. That's largely a weird Christian obsession.

Excellent news.

The fact that no Democratic-controlled State has done that before is a truly shameful testament to the implicitly classist, elite-driven nature of the American pro-choice movement.

Unfortunately, you're right. The pro-choice movement seems to be more preoccupied with ensuring the rights of middle and upper middle-class White women, rather than access for all women - particularly those most vulnerable, like lower, working class, and minority women. If anything, the state should directly subsidize or cover the expenses of abortion for low-income women.
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JA
Jacobin American
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,955
United States


« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2017, 02:55:32 AM »

I 100% support this bill. Why place roadblocks in the way of someone getting an abortion? If they want an abortion, it's better for them, that fetus, and society that they do not keep it. The fewer unwanted children or ones that cannot be adequately provided for, the better off everyone will be. Only a tiny number of women would ever elect to have an abortion unless they felt it was necessary, so making it harder, particularly for low-income women and those underage, is helping what, exactly?

Cause the government shouldn't be funding morally questionable things(and I'm not talking legislating it just funding them )

There's nothing morally questionable about abortion. That's largely a weird Christian obsession.

Excellent news.

The fact that no Democratic-controlled State has done that before is a truly shameful testament to the implicitly classist, elite-driven nature of the American pro-choice movement.

Unfortunately, you're right. The pro-choice movement seems to be more preoccupied with ensuring the rights of middle and upper middle-class White women, rather than access for all women - particularly those most vulnerable, like lower, working class, and minority women. If anything, the state should directly subsidize or cover the expenses of abortion for low-income women.


Im not a christian and most of the people I know(who are also not christian) agree with me.

Values inevitably derived from a Christian culture (unless they are from a non-Christian culture, which may have its own taboos concerning abortion, life, and reproduction).
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JA
Jacobin American
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,955
United States


« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2017, 03:15:55 AM »

I 100% support this bill. Why place roadblocks in the way of someone getting an abortion? If they want an abortion, it's better for them, that fetus, and society that they do not keep it. The fewer unwanted children or ones that cannot be adequately provided for, the better off everyone will be. Only a tiny number of women would ever elect to have an abortion unless they felt it was necessary, so making it harder, particularly for low-income women and those underage, is helping what, exactly?

Cause the government shouldn't be funding morally questionable things(and I'm not talking legislating it just funding them )

There's nothing morally questionable about abortion. That's largely a weird Christian obsession.

Excellent news.

The fact that no Democratic-controlled State has done that before is a truly shameful testament to the implicitly classist, elite-driven nature of the American pro-choice movement.

Unfortunately, you're right. The pro-choice movement seems to be more preoccupied with ensuring the rights of middle and upper middle-class White women, rather than access for all women - particularly those most vulnerable, like lower, working class, and minority women. If anything, the state should directly subsidize or cover the expenses of abortion for low-income women.


Im not a christian and most of the people I know(who are also not christian) agree with me.

Values inevitably derived from a Christian culture (unless they are from a non-Christian culture, which may have its own taboos concerning abortion, life, and reproduction).

I am a hindu

And that negates what I said, how?
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JA
Jacobin American
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,955
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2017, 03:43:41 AM »
« Edited: July 07, 2017, 03:46:06 AM by Jacobin American »

Only a tiny number of women would ever elect to have an abortion unless they felt it was necessary

lol wut?

Like 1 in 4 women in the US have had an abortion. In some urban areas, more than half of pregnancies end in abortion.

And? What evidence do you have that shows the overwhelming majority of those women did not pursue an abortion due to some necessity (product of rape or incest, health of mother or fetus, finances, perceived inability to properly raise a child, etc...)? Only a small minority of women treat abortions as anything short of a serious matter; they don't elect to get them for the hell of it.
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Jacobin American
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,955
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2017, 02:21:02 PM »

All I can say is the left has gone just as insane has the right has , the center right and center left need to take back the country from these people .

Almost the rest of the Western world has the government pay for abortion as part of free general health services. Why is this only controversial here?

Lack of an historical Socialist movement and exceptional religiosity. It's hilarious to see people calling this "far-left" policy when, in a global context, this is simple center-left politics that have been commonly accepted for decades now.
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Jacobin American
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,955
United States


« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2017, 03:01:36 PM »

All I can say is the left has gone just as insane has the right has , the center right and center left need to take back the country from these people .

Almost the rest of the Western world has the government pay for abortion as part of free general health services. Why is this only controversial here?

Lack of an historical Socialist movement and exceptional religiosity. It's hilarious to see people calling this "far-left" policy when, in a global context, this is simple center-left politics that have been commonly accepted for decades now.

Im thankful America never had a powerful socialist movement as socialist = anti freedom

lmao ok

No, I won't provide a substantive response because such completely stupid statements don't deserve that.
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