How will Democrats shed the elitist image in time for 2020?

[JA]

In all honesty, we can't. Not without sacrificing our ideals. Bernie Sanders is a very unique individual and there simply aren't many like him who can be both an intellectual and a man of the people. Jeremy Corbyn comes to mind, but he's British. The Democratic platform of social justice appeals to minorities and college educated Whites; not to non-college educated Whites. We are a party of diverse groups; African Americans, Native Americans, Hispanic immigrants, Atheists, Muslims, and so on. The working class White man from eastern Ohio doesn't care about social justice issues; if anything, he supports the police rather than BLM and "clean" coal over stricter environmental regulations.

I would love to have a Democratic Party that can appeal to the White working class, colleged educated Whites, and minorities at sufficient levels to regain and maintain control over the institutions of government. Unfortunately, one of these groups must be lost in order to hold power with the others. I just hope I'm wrong.

[JA]

In all honesty, we can't. Not without sacrificing our ideals. Bernie Sanders is a very unique individual and there simply aren't many like him who can be both an intellectual and a man of the people. Jeremy Corbyn comes to mind, but he's British. The Democratic platform of social justice appeals to minorities and college educated Whites; not to non-college educated Whites. We are a party of diverse groups; African Americans, Native Americans, Hispanic immigrants, Atheists, Muslims, and so on. The working class White man from eastern Ohio doesn't care about social justice issues; if anything, he supports the police rather than BLM and "clean" coal over stricter environmental regulations.

I would love to have a Democratic Party that can appeal to the White working class, colleged educated Whites, and minorities at sufficient levels to regain and maintain control over the institutions of government. Unfortunately, one of these groups must be lost in order to hold power with the others. I just hope I'm wrong.

I mean this in the kindest way possible and with all due respect, but I think you're wrong. The Democratic Party has always been the party of building ingenious demographic coalitions with strong and lasting bonds. We slip up from time to time and the coalition doesn't always hold up, but time and time again the Democratic Party is able to rebuild. We need something like the New Deal coalition again, and we won't get it just by driving up minority turnout and hoping for the best.

It's not that I disagree with you because if you saw my other recent posts, I want us to reach out to and become the party of the working class again. But I also fear that in so doing we may have to compromise our social justice values to achieve this. Unless we can miraculously staff the party with Sanders and Brown types, I don't see how we achieve this.

[JA]

In all honesty, we can't. Not without sacrificing our ideals. Bernie Sanders is a very unique individual and there simply aren't many like him who can be both an intellectual and a man of the people. Jeremy Corbyn comes to mind, but he's British. The Democratic platform of social justice appeals to minorities and college educated Whites; not to non-college educated Whites. We are a party of diverse groups; African Americans, Native Americans, Hispanic immigrants, Atheists, Muslims, and so on. The working class White man from eastern Ohio doesn't care about social justice issues; if anything, he supports the police rather than BLM and "clean" coal over stricter environmental regulations.

I would love to have a Democratic Party that can appeal to the White working class, colleged educated Whites, and minorities at sufficient levels to regain and maintain control over the institutions of government. Unfortunately, one of these groups must be lost in order to hold power with the others. I just hope I'm wrong.

I mean this in the kindest way possible and with all due respect, but I think you're wrong. The Democratic Party has always been the party of building ingenious demographic coalitions with strong and lasting bonds. We slip up from time to time and the coalition doesn't always hold up, but time and time again the Democratic Party is able to rebuild. We need something like the New Deal coalition again, and we won't get it just by driving up minority turnout and hoping for the best.

It's not that I disagree with you because if you saw my other recent posts, I want us to reach out to and become the party of the working class again. But I also fear that in so doing we may have to compromise our social justice values to achieve this. Unless we can miraculously staff the party with Sanders and Brown types, I don't see how we achieve this.

I think it is a bit pessimistic to say that social justice and the goals of the white working class are incompatible. The white working class didn't leave the party when abortion became a headline issue, or when gay marriage was added to the platform. The working class left the party when neoliberalism took over. When we stopped talking about unions, trade and poverty and only started talking about social justice.

We can do both. We just have to make sure that all members of the coalition get their piece of the pie.

Preach, brah!

Seconded. This grip of neoliberalism on our party must be routed just like it was in Britain's Labour Party. Hopefully with Sanders and Warren (maybe Ellsion, if he becomes DNC Chair) as the de facto leaders of the party we can reestablish ourselves as the party of *all* the underprivileged.

[JA]

In all honesty, we can't. Not without sacrificing our ideals. Bernie Sanders is a very unique individual and there simply aren't many like him who can be both an intellectual and a man of the people. Jeremy Corbyn comes to mind, but he's British. The Democratic platform of social justice appeals to minorities and college educated Whites; not to non-college educated Whites. We are a party of diverse groups; African Americans, Native Americans, Hispanic immigrants, Atheists, Muslims, and so on. The working class White man from eastern Ohio doesn't care about social justice issues; if anything, he supports the police rather than BLM and "clean" coal over stricter environmental regulations.

I would love to have a Democratic Party that can appeal to the White working class, colleged educated Whites, and minorities at sufficient levels to regain and maintain control over the institutions of government. Unfortunately, one of these groups must be lost in order to hold power with the others. I just hope I'm wrong.

I mean this in the kindest way possible and with all due respect, but I think you're wrong. The Democratic Party has always been the party of building ingenious demographic coalitions with strong and lasting bonds. We slip up from time to time and the coalition doesn't always hold up, but time and time again the Democratic Party is able to rebuild. We need something like the New Deal coalition again, and we won't get it just by driving up minority turnout and hoping for the best.

It's not that I disagree with you because if you saw my other recent posts, I want us to reach out to and become the party of the working class again. But I also fear that in so doing we may have to compromise our social justice values to achieve this. Unless we can miraculously staff the party with Sanders and Brown types, I don't see how we achieve this.

I think it is a bit pessimistic to say that social justice and the goals of the white working class are incompatible. The white working class didn't leave the party when abortion became a headline issue, or when gay marriage was added to the platform. The working class left the party when neoliberalism took over. When we stopped talking about unions, trade and poverty and only started talking about social justice.

We can do both. We just have to make sure that all members of the coalition get their piece of the pie.

Preach, brah!

Seconded. This grip of neoliberalism on our party must be routed just like it was in Britain's Labour Party. Hopefully with Sanders and Warren (maybe Ellsion, if he becomes DNC Chair) as the de facto leaders of the party we can reestablish ourselves as the party of *all* the underprivileged.

When Martin O'Malley was forced to apologize for saying "All Lives Matter," that's when I knew the radical SJW cucks took over your party.

I can understand both sides' positions on this issue. Supporters of BLM are simply trying to make the point that Black lives in America matter just as much as Hispanic, White, and Asian lives, yet they feel that theirs are the ones not valued equally. Saying "all lives matter" in response essentially ignores their complaint; it's like saying "all cancer matters" during breast cancer awareness month. Everyone knows all cancer matters, just as everyone (with a brain) knows all lives matter. It's that black lives, like breast cancer had been, isn't being treated equally because of the systemic devaluation of an underprivileged group. While others may feel like the lives of other races are being ignored when people proclaim "black lives matter," that's simply not the intent. We can argue the semantics of it, such as, ideally, they'd say "black lives matter too," but that's irrelevant.

Anyway, to get back to your point, you're right that the Social Justice Warrior types who accept no compromise or deviation from the ever increasing list of social restrictions are problematic and react with vitriol to any violation of their standards. They must realize that America isn't their college campus; many don't consciously think that what they're saying or doing may be offensive and that shaming them for this unawareness will only drive them further away from the sensitivity Social Justice advocates rightfully seek.