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« on: August 05, 2016, 02:33:34 AM »

The Now Model has gone coo coo for Clinton Puffs, giving HRC a 91.5% chance to win the election with all swing states and some lean states going D.
Which makes sense; the now-cast currently has it as nearly an 8 pt race (45.1/37.5). I'd expect to win more than 9/10 times, too, if the election day polling showed those kinds of numbers. The other 2 forecasts think it's ~5-6 pts.
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2016, 05:19:47 PM »

Can anyone see the now-cast at the moment? The site breaks for me when I try to get to it.
94/6 to Clinton. SC, MO leaning Trump; AZ leaning Clinton; GA, IA, NC, NV all likely Clinton (~70-80%).
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2016, 05:14:36 PM »

Maryland, you hero.
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2016, 12:42:55 PM »

For comparison, Princeton Election Consortium now has their odds of a Clinton victory at 96%/98% in their two models with an EV projection of 337/201.
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2016, 02:45:50 PM »

Is it possible for Utah to turn purple in any of the forecasts in the remaining time or is the inertia that would need to be overcome just too great?
Ehm, he had lead in just one poll. But 3-4 polls showing him leading and he might take a lead in Now-cast.

Yeah, there's no reason he shouldn't be able to take over in Nowcast. As you say, though, he certainly shouldn't be yet.
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2016, 01:42:31 PM »
« Edited: October 23, 2016, 01:49:20 PM by Speed of Sound »

Wasn't really sure where I wanted to put this, but the Princeton Election Consortium now has their odds of a Clinton victory at 97% in their random drift projection and at 99% in their Bayesian projection, which is the first time I've seen 99% pop up in their numbers. They have the EVs at 336-202.

EDIT: In fact, while I'm here, here's everyone's projections as collected by NYT

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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2016, 03:50:25 PM »

Trump's been gaining ground every day since the debate. Am I right to be a little nervous?

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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2016, 02:23:45 PM »

While we're comparing the two, I'll admit that I'm a tad shocked that Wang's model hasn't back off at all. Still 97 random/99 Bayesian, as it was a week ago. I thought it might revert a bit, but not so far.
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2016, 02:29:46 PM »

Didn't Wang get his Florida prediction wrong in 2012?

Technically, yes, but not really:

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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2016, 02:37:17 PM »

While we're comparing the two, I'll admit that I'm a tad shocked that Wang's model hasn't back off at all. Still 97 random/99 Bayesian, as it was a week ago. I thought it might revert a bit, but not so far.

Wang's model has insanely small confidence levels.  Didn't he have the Dems as like 90% favorites to maintain the Senate for most of 2014, but flipped it a few days before the elections?

Maybe true, but he hasn't moved below 95% on this election in eons.
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2016, 08:51:13 AM »

Seeing a Trump fan call him Daddy is the creepiest thing I've seen all week, so thanks for that.

Pretty much.

Young men in desperate need of a "cool" father figure makes up 90% of Trump's online support.
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2016, 08:57:16 AM »

Seeing a Trump fan call him Daddy is the creepiest thing I've seen all week, so thanks for that.

Pretty much.

Young angry white men in desperate need of a "cool" father figure makes up 90% of Trump's online support.
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We're on the internet, so I didn't think that I really needed to qualify those obvious parts.
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2016, 01:04:08 PM »

Nowcast has NV FL NC OH IA all leaning Trump.  Some by the narrowest of margins of course.

Input garbage, output garbage. Only Nate could have his model claim Trump's leading NV and then release an article about how Clinton is likely to exceed her already positive NV polls.
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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2016, 01:11:50 PM »


Good thing the quality of polls and the nature of the electorate are the same as 2012.
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2016, 12:00:44 PM »

Update: New Hampsire is out of the freiwal.

I defined the Freiwal as the states that always seem to have a better chance of being carried by HRC than the election according to 538. New Hampshire was among them, but now thanks to Trump leading in a couple polls, it is not

Those polls right or not, God bless NV.
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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2016, 03:56:53 PM »

The development over the last few days is super scary. Clinton's win percentage:

Oct 29th: 81,1%
Oct 30th: 78,8%
Oct 31st: 75,2%
Nov 1st: 71,2%
Nov 2nd: 67,7%
Today: 64,7%

That is virtually a linear nosedive, losing an average of 3,28 points PER DAY. As a thought experiment, if the trend continued, on election day the model would have Clinton at 48,3%.

Trump wont win PA or Colorado  unless her chance drop to 42 percent
Harry Enten keeps saying she won't lose NV, which, if true, would add to Hillary's overall chances given the models have NV around 50/50 depending.

And, more importantly, Harry's saying it because Jon Ralston is saying it. Jon Ralston is the one and only guy when it comes to covering NV for this.
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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2016, 02:20:31 PM »

I see the junk polls have erased Clinton's bounce.

Poor, poor Nate.
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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2016, 03:08:57 PM »

Nate is NOT AMUSED!

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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2016, 03:32:24 PM »
« Edited: November 05, 2016, 03:37:02 PM by Speed of Sound »

The best part of this isn't that Nate's defense of his model is wrong- cause he's right on that- it's how obvious it is that he knows it won't be right.
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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2016, 03:38:38 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2016, 03:43:07 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2016, 03:45:55 PM »

Oh Nate.....
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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2016, 06:16:07 PM »

Is this supposed to be some kind of humble brag? Huh Good grief.
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