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  Should George W Bush be put on trial for Iraq? (search mode)
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Yes, Bush should/should have faced trial
 
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No, Bush should not face any trial
 
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Author Topic: Should George W Bush be put on trial for Iraq?  (Read 1209 times)
No War, but the War on Christmas
iBizzBee
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« on: March 20, 2023, 09:44:20 PM »




Interesting that the mainstream left-of-center media is actually pushing this narrative 20 years later when they would've been the first to condemn activists who said the same thing back then as un-patriotic.

Any way, the obvious answer is a hearty 'YES!'. If we had a real rules based international order that held world leaders to account for their crimes... Putin & Bush would both have been brought to justice by now for their illegal, brutal, pointless wars of aggression.
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iBizzBee
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2023, 12:05:40 AM »

Comparing Bush and Putin is completely ridiculous in every possible way . Bush was not a dictator and Iraq unlike Ukraine was a totalitarian dictatorship. Most of the deaths in Iraq were also caused by Sunni Extremists , many who were led by high ranking members of Saddam’s military where they also were responsible for countless Iraqi deaths .

The vast majority of deaths in Ukraine is due to Putin and Russian separatists before that in while  in Iraq it was by Sunni insurgents who also were responsible for countless deaths when they were in power in Iraq .



Am I making any of the claims, including that Bush is as bad as Putin or that American forces were directly responsible for every death in Iraq? No, those are your words/straw men.

However the war in Iraq was 100% illegal according to almost all international conventions and any justifications presented have now been proven to be almost entirely fabrications. Let's be honest, the overthrow of a brutal dictator was just a side-piece to real American objectives.

Most Iraqis when asked believe that their lives are worse off and tbh the country isn't in much better of a position, all things considered, than even Afghanistan.

But the important part is the fact that both wars were illegal under international law. And as I said in the OP, if we had a real rules based international order that applied to all countries equally then there would be consequences for that.
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iBizzBee
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2023, 01:33:24 AM »




Interesting story, especially the backlash even suggesting US intentions in Iraq weren't completely coherent back then received.
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