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« on: May 13, 2021, 07:37:50 AM »

Given this field, NYC is going to get what it deserves.  

Yang is a meme-candidate who is simply not up to the task of being NYC Mayor and whose support for UBI should really be alarming to progressives given how many corporatists express openness to it as a Trojan horse for eliminating the social safety (the argument being that if you get $1,000 per-month, then Medicaid, food stamps, unemployment payments, minimum wage laws, and really any sort of welfare programs are no longer necessary).  

Eric Adams is a vicious anti-Semite (he once accused a Hispanic politician of being a race-traitor for marrying a Jewish woman and used to be a vocal Farrakhan supporter, among other things) who clearly lacks any deeply-held beliefs given how he flip-flopped from running as a fierce critic of police brutality to trying to market himself as the “law and order” candidate while running for Mayor...at least when he’s speaking to certain audiences Tongue

Stringer is experienced and sounds progressive enough on the issues (at least from what I’ve read), but he’s a sex predator, so he’s obviously unfit for this or any other office to put it mildly.  

Donovan just outed himself as a disqualifyingly out of touch elitist (although I’ve gotten that vibe from him ever since his dust up about campaign contributions/funds about a month ago).  

Morales sounds like a terminally online, fringe leftist type from what (admittedly little I’ve heard about her), although I don’t know too much about her tbf, so maybe she’s fine.  Idk.  

Wiley doesn’t seem awful, but she lacks experience and I don’t love the idea of putting an at least part-time MSNBC talking head in a position of real importance.  She also seems to be in at least something of a Manhattan bubble in terms of her beliefs about what life is like for the average New Yorker which...doesn’t exactly assuage my aforementioned concerns.  

I don’t really know about the others, but they don’t seem like they have any chance of winning or even cracking the top three.  I guess I’d reluctantly vote for Wiley and then not second-preference anyone.  Eric Adams, Andrew Yang, and Scott Stringer would all be terrible choices for different reasons.



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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2021, 08:56:24 AM »


Stringer is experienced and sounds progressive enough on the issues (at least from what I’ve read), but he’s a sex predator, so he’s obviously unfit for this or any other office to put it mildly.  


Got any credible sources for this claim?


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/29/nyregion/scott-stringer-sexual-harassment.html


Given this field, NYC is going to get what it deserves.  

Yang is a meme-candidate who is simply not up to the task of being NYC Mayor and whose support for UBI should really be alarming to progressives given how many corporatists express openness to it as a Trojan horse for eliminating the social safety (the argument being that if you get $1,000 per-month, then Medicaid, food stamps, unemployment payments, minimum wage laws, and really any sort of welfare programs are no longer necessary).  

Eric Adams is a vicious anti-Semite (he once accused a Hispanic politician of being a race-traitor for marrying a Jewish woman and used to be a vocal Farrakhan supporter, among other things) who clearly lacks any deeply-held beliefs given how he flip-flopped from running as a fierce critic of police brutality to trying to market himself as the “law and order” candidate while running for Mayor...at least when he’s speaking to certain audiences Tongue

Stringer is experienced and sounds progressive enough on the issues (at least from what I’ve read), but he’s a sex predator, so he’s obviously unfit for this or any other office to put it mildly.  

Donovan just outed himself as a disqualifyingly out of touch elitist (although I’ve gotten that vibe from him ever since his dust up about campaign contributions/funds about a month ago).  

Morales sounds like a terminally online, fringe leftist type from what (admittedly little I’ve heard about her), although I don’t know too much about her tbf, so maybe she’s fine.  Idk.  

Wiley doesn’t seem awful, but she lacks experience and I don’t love the idea of putting an at least part-time MSNBC talking head in a position of real importance.  She also seems to be in at least something of a Manhattan bubble in terms of her beliefs about what life is like for the average New Yorker which...doesn’t exactly assuage my aforementioned concerns.  

I don’t really know about the others, but they don’t seem like they have any chance of winning or even cracking the top three.  I guess I’d reluctantly vote for Wiley and then not second-preference anyone.  Eric Adams, Andrew Yang, and Scott Stringer would all be terrible choices for different reasons.

Why not second preference Garcia, the one candidate you didn't mention?

Also "NYC is getting what it deserves" sounds...harsh?

I don't know enough about Garcia, so maybe.  The "getting what it deserves" part was honestly me venting more than anything else.
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2021, 12:04:58 PM »

I am back with Stringer (probably behind Morales), unless something more turns up. What we know (according to both parties) is that the two were involved somehow. He was around 40 and she was in her early 30s working on his campaign, both single. Clearly, Stringer felt that they had something while she wasnt into him. There is some question about whether the two were involved before (possibly much before) the campaign when both were in the local D groups, as others have claimed that the two were casually involved. Its possible that she felt they were just flirting in a bar, while he felt that they had potential.

I'm not going to throw out Stringer based on this. Now if there were a good alternative, I would probably vote for that over Stringer just in case there is more evidence that comes out later, whether to make him a predator or even just to detract from his performance as mayor.


I mean, she’s accused him of groping her.  The allegation isn’t that he was flirting in a bar, it’s that he committed sexual assault.
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2021, 01:05:05 PM »

Given this field, NYC is going to get what it deserves.  

Yang is a meme-candidate who is simply not up to the task of being NYC Mayor and whose support for UBI should really be alarming to progressives given how many corporatists express openness to it as a Trojan horse for eliminating the social safety (the argument being that if you get $1,000 per-month, then Medicaid, food stamps, unemployment payments, minimum wage laws, and really any sort of welfare programs are no longer necessary).  

Eric Adams is a vicious anti-Semite (he once accused a Hispanic politician of being a race-traitor for marrying a Jewish woman and used to be a vocal Farrakhan supporter, among other things) who clearly lacks any deeply-held beliefs given how he flip-flopped from running as a fierce critic of police brutality to trying to market himself as the “law and order” candidate while running for Mayor...at least when he’s speaking to certain audiences Tongue

Stringer is experienced and sounds progressive enough on the issues (at least from what I’ve read), but he’s a sex predator, so he’s obviously unfit for this or any other office to put it mildly.  

Donovan just outed himself as a disqualifyingly out of touch elitist (although I’ve gotten that vibe from him ever since his dust up about campaign contributions/funds about a month ago).  

Morales sounds like a terminally online, fringe leftist type from what (admittedly little I’ve heard about her), although I don’t know too much about her tbf, so maybe she’s fine.  Idk.  

Wiley doesn’t seem awful, but she lacks experience and I don’t love the idea of putting an at least part-time MSNBC talking head in a position of real importance.  She also seems to be in at least something of a Manhattan bubble in terms of her beliefs about what life is like for the average New Yorker which...doesn’t exactly assuage my aforementioned concerns.  

I don’t really know about the others, but they don’t seem like they have any chance of winning or even cracking the top three.  I guess I’d reluctantly vote for Wiley and then not second-preference anyone.  Eric Adams, Andrew Yang, and Scott Stringer would all be terrible choices for different reasons.


'Anyone But Yang, Adams & Stringer!'?

That’s basically where I’m at now lol Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2021, 08:19:24 PM »

Why has Yang collapsed to the extent that he has in recent weeks?

Garcia had a surge, also he was always a crappy candidate coasting on name recognition
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2021, 01:13:37 PM »

Honestly, if I could vote, I'd just vote for Garcia and leave the ballot blank after that.  I don't think I could vote for any of the other candidates in good conscience at this point.
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2021, 04:31:30 PM »

Bernie Sanders and even AOC have been far more reliable allies than than Kyrsten Sinema and Kurt Schrader.  The idea that working with the left is a waste of everyone's time is laughable.  Are some of them just attention-seeking ***holes who just want to whine on Twitter?  Sure, but why judge an important part of your coalition by the worst it has to offer?  And in any case, the left is a part of the current Democratic coalition for better or worse just like suburbanites are.  If Democrats want to get anything done and not get curb-stomped in the midterms, then they've gotta work together, period.  That's true for the leftists, moderates, and everyone in between.
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