Election 2018 Open Thread - Part 1

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Just voted, the polling place wasn’t packed, but this was definitely the most people I’ve seen there.  I’ve never had even a five minute line before and there was one today.  Terrific weather in Franklin County btw.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Love that like 95% of the reaction Online is either ridiculous, excessive DOOM or delusional optimism.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Any reason why the latest OC returns have been less Democratic than the previous couple days? Is it something we should extrapolate from, or is it just noise and we can expect another good batch tomorrow?

I really want Katie Porter to pull this off.

More importantly, Cisneros really needs to win.  Somewhere along the line I got more invested in that race than like 80% of competitive house seats. 

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I am going to laugh so hard if Strong Candidate™ Unbeatable Titan David Valadao loses to some random bankrupt gringo.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Yeah, it's a low standard at this point, but you've gotta give McSally some respect for not jumping on the psychotic nutjob train like Trump, Scott, Kim, Poliquin, etc.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Senator Sinema is probably one of my favorite victories in recent years. She's a great image for the party.

She really, really, really isn’t.  I mean winning the Senate seat is important, but there’s a legitimate argument to be made that the better woman lost.  Sinema said about a week after 9/11 that she has “no problem” with Americans joining the Taliban and fighting our country’s own soldiers in Afghanistan.  Sinema is also an exceptionally unprincipled politician who almost compulsively flip-flops, is currently calling Joe Manchin her role model, and said she was undecided on Kavanaugh (which McSally was terrible about too, don’t get me wrong).  That’s not what anyone should want as the future of the Democratic Party.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Senator Sinema is probably one of my favorite victories in recent years. She's a great image for the party.

She really, really, really isn’t.  I mean winning the Senate seat is important, but there’s a legitimate argument to be made that the better woman lost.  Sinema said about a week after 9/11 that she has “no problem” with Americans joining the Taliban and fighting our country’s own soldiers in Afghanistan.  Sinema is also an exceptionally unprincipled politician who almost compulsively flip-flops, is currently calling Joe Manchin her role model, and said she was undecided on Kavanaugh (which McSally was terrible about too, don’t get me wrong).  That’s not what anyone should want as the future of the Democratic Party.

Link regarding that bit about her having no problem with Americans joining the Taliban?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalreview.com/news/kyrsten-sinema-senate-candidate-in-2003-i-dont-care-if-people-join-taliban/amp/

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Senator Sinema is probably one of my favorite victories in recent years. She's a great image for the party.

She really, really, really isn’t.  I mean winning the Senate seat is important, but there’s a legitimate argument to be made that the better woman lost.  Sinema said about a week after 9/11 that she has “no problem” with Americans joining the Taliban and fighting our country’s own soldiers in Afghanistan.  Sinema is also an exceptionally unprincipled politician who almost compulsively flip-flops, is currently calling Joe Manchin her role model, and said she was undecided on Kavanaugh (which McSally was terrible about too, don’t get me wrong).  That’s not what anyone should want as the future of the Democratic Party.

Link regarding that bit about her having no problem with Americans joining the Taliban?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalreview.com/news/kyrsten-sinema-senate-candidate-in-2003-i-dont-care-if-people-join-taliban/amp/

No one gives a ****.

McSally probably bought it up over a million times during the campaign and she still lost.

The idea that morality and its relevance should be dictated by who happens to have won the most recent political victory is a truly terrifying proposition.  I don’t even have to risk running afoul of Godwin’s law to show this; let’s just take a moment and apply your argument to some recent political fights.


“No one gives a **** about the Access Hollywood tape.  

Hillary probably brought it up over a million times during the campaign and she still lost.”


“No one gives a **** that DeSantis is a racist.  

Gillum probably brought it up a million times during the campaign and he still lost.”  

“No one gives a **** about whether Brett Kavanaugh is an attempted rapist.  

The Democrats probably brought it up a million times during the hearings and he was still confirmed.”

A reprehensible belief or action doesn’t automatically become good or even irrelevant just because the person who holds or committed it won an election.  

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Senator Sinema is probably one of my favorite victories in recent years. She's a great image for the party.

She really, really, really isn’t.  I mean winning the Senate seat is important, but there’s a legitimate argument to be made that the better woman lost.  Sinema said about a week after 9/11 that she has “no problem” with Americans joining the Taliban and fighting our country’s own soldiers in Afghanistan.  Sinema is also an exceptionally unprincipled politician who almost compulsively flip-flops, is currently calling Joe Manchin her role model, and said she was undecided on Kavanaugh (which McSally was terrible about too, don’t get me wrong).  That’s not what anyone should want as the future of the Democratic Party.

I love how you put "no problem" in quotes when she never said that exact phrase, which is exactly the talking point that both McSally and Trump put out there. Thank you for caring so much about people being unprincipled though.

It's better for the future of the Democratic party for someone who said "Let's ****ing do this" when talking about stripping protections for pre-existing conditions from people's health care to be elected? Then McSally has basically lied about that vote and quote for the past year. It's Sinema who is unprincipled?

Judging Sinema off a dismissive comment from 15 years ago (Sinema: "Fine. I don’t care if you want to do that, go ahead." OMG...SHE LOVES THE TALIBAN SO MUCH) and calling McSally a better woman while ignoring her unprincipled flip flops is rich.

Sinema isn't perfect. I hope she pulls a Gillibrand. But what a weird thing to harp on,especially while inventing a quote while acting as the morality police for the Democratic party.

Some of us are sometimes in a rush when we post here b/c we actually have lives and don’t always get every exact word right when we’re posting a quote from memory, but yes, Sinema said “I don’t care” if Americans join the Taliban to fight U.S. soldiers and actively opposed the war on terror.  Because that’s soooooooo much better

I never said McSally was a principled individual; tbh, I don’t like her at all.  Both her and Sinema are flip-floppers, although Sinema has the ideological consistency of Donald Trump, so she’s a bit worse.  And say what you will, McSally actually served in the military instead of going around spewing nonsense about a non-violent response to 9/11 (I.e. no remotely meaningful response).  Sinema changes positions and ideologies like a snake shedding its skin and I think we both know that you’d be singing a very different tune if Sinema were a Republican.  

As for the rest of your post, strangely enough I don’t care whether or not I have the approval of some random Atlas Democratic hack.

Protip: Writing in all caps, doesn’t make your argument stronger; it just makes you look unhinged.