Donna Brazile: How the Clinton campaign ran the DNC

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

This is beyond pathetic coming from Brazile.  Didn't she get fired for leaking debate questions to Hillary?

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Elizabeth Warren admitting the same. Let's see how the prospective 2020 candidates handle this.

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/926188895850696706

Nothing but shameless pandering to the whackivist crowd.  Disappointing to say the least

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Anyone who doesn't see that the DNC was trying to help Clinton is insane and/or willfully ignorant (this thread seems to be populated with many people of both varieties). That being said, the timing of this admission is unhelpful, as coming so late after the election, it only serves to re-ignite an old debate.

They had their thumb on the scale at the periphery in a sketchy way, but that’s a far cry from “rigging” the primary.  What drives me up the wall about this is that the whackivists keep undermining those of us who are serious about trying to reform the DNC and take the levers of power within from the party away from the corporatist establishment.  A great example is the fact that Stein got as many votes as she did, it gives the Clinton/DWS/etc crowd an excuse to deflect from the real reasons Hillary lost.  There would’ve been real momentum for reform if the Sanders crowd had been willing to work with Perez after he won the DNC chairmanship race and we could’ve gotten meaningful concessions.  Instead, the second most progressive DNC chairman in recent history has been forced to pander to the corporatist establishment b/c his more ideologically natural base within the party won’t work with him just b/c he supported Hillary in 2016.  Then you have DFA which - God knows why - genuinely seems to be trying to do what little they can to make Northam lose to a race-baiting, corporatist Republican hack and former Enron lobbyist.  

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The Democrats would be in better shape right now if they had been honest about the fact that they were going to ram through Hillary's nomination, and that was that.  Folks might have understood that somewhat.  People understand the logic of "We're doing this, and no one here wants to be responsible for blowing this!".  Instead, the whole thing was done with Hillary Clinton phoniness. 

The Clintons actually BOUGHT the Democratic Party apparatus, in a real sense.  That's crappy at a number of levels, but the slimy part was that it was secretive, in an attempt to make Hillary look like a candidate with real popular appeal.  Given the REAL relationship between the Clintons and the Democratic Party post 2012, is it unreasonable to wonder if those early polls that made Hillary such a prohibitive favorite with sky-high approval ratings weren't bogus?  At one time, I thought Hillary was the most prohibitive favorite in the history of Presidential politics, based on poll numbers, but when you look at the REAL relationship between the Clintons and the Democratic Party, you have to wonder.  How tough is it, really, when you "own" your political party to whip up bogus polls?

I can't believe Donald Trump hasn't known this all along, either.  I suspect the only folks in the dark (outside of the general public) were (A) Bernie and (B) the other GOP contenders. 

Bernie was apparently told all this by Brazille before the primary was over, according to her story. And he STILL endorsed Clinton, campaigned for her constantly, and apparently never once felt the urge to leak this story himself.

But according to the Clintonites he's still an awful, scheming, ((selfish)), crazy person who did everything in his power to ruin Hillary's chances. 

In a multiparty democracy Sanders voters and Clinton voters wouldn’t be in the same party; that’s pretty obvious. As far as I’m concerned everything associated with the Clintons needs to be purged and burned. Everything about them screams unethical behavior, yet her loyalists will always find some way to excuse their actions and blame everyone else. Bernie didn’t hurt Hillary’s camping one bit; Hillary hurt Hillary’s campaign. Hell, she even did worse to Obama in ‘08 than Bernie did to her (even more of her supporters switched to McCainnthan Bernie’s switched to Trump). Hillary lost the election to a scandal plagued reality TV star and it’s 100% due to her being so unlikable and untrustworthy. She was even able to be seriously challenged in a primary unethically tilted heavily in her favor by a 70 some year old crank Socialist from Vermont.

Hillary was and is and always will be an absolute and total failure. The Clintons together have brought the party to its lowest level since the 1920s (with the help of their allies). And yet they still cling bitterly to power in a failing political organization bereft of new ideas, incapable of generating enthusiasm, and unwilling to represent the working class which FDR molded the party into representing (which also led it to its political high point).

Even if they wouldn’t be in the same party (which I’m not convinced of given that many 2016 Sanders voters likely backed Hillary in 2008, it’s not a neat little ideological split by any means), we have a two party system and that’s not gonna change.  Political success is like interpreting the law: you often have to make compromises and find the least bad of various imperfect solutions to the problem at hand.  For better or worse, that’s just the way it works.  Sanders voters (like me and [I assume] you) and Clinton voters have far more in common ideologically and WRT political interests than we do with even the most “moderate” of faux-moderate Republicans.  However, this also means that if we actively worked to gradually take control of the levers of power and change the party from within (obviously won’t happen in just one or two cycles, even the Clintonite corporatistism really started with Tony Coelho back in the 80s) then the current establishment would essentially be forced to hold its nose and support more economically progressive Democrats in order to have any power and influence (which these guys care far more about than ideology).

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Jesus Donna what are you doing...

Trying to sell a dumb book no one cares about.