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Chancellor Tanterterg
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« on: October 11, 2017, 05:22:36 PM »
« edited: October 11, 2017, 05:25:28 PM by Malcolm X »

I agree that the Obamas certainly have a level of class not found in today's white house, but the measure of a president shouldn't be how many world leaders he can make laugh or children he can take pictures with. On the policy front, whether it's the domestic policy agenda that crushed small businesses and made healthcare more expensive (as opposed to less, as he promised), or the foreign policy that projected weakness abroad, allowing Russia to more boldly challenge us on the world stage and radical Islam to spread like wildfire, Obama was an abject failure as a president.

I'm going to ignore all the other nonsense in this post and focus on the bolded portion of this post for a moment.  The majority of your party formed a personality cult around a sex predator whose campaign actively colluded with Russian intelligence during the campaign and who has actively pursued a blatantly pro-Russian foreign policy agenda whenever possible.  Unless you voted against Trump in 2016, you're in no position to criticize anyone for being soft on Russia.  I know intellectual honesty is hard to come by these days, but good lord, some of you guys are so full of sh!t it's insane.  I mean, give me a f***ing break!

If you did not vote for Trump in 2016 then I apologize for assuming the worst although your assessment of Obama's policies is still ridiculously inaccurate.
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Chancellor Tanterterg
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2017, 08:42:13 AM »

I agree that the Obamas certainly have a level of class not found in today's white house, but the measure of a president shouldn't be how many world leaders he can make laugh or children he can take pictures with. On the policy front, whether it's the domestic policy agenda that crushed small businesses and made healthcare more expensive (as opposed to less, as he promised), or the foreign policy that projected weakness abroad, allowing Russia to more boldly challenge us on the world stage and radical Islam to spread like wildfire, Obama was an abject failure as a president.

I'm going to ignore all the other nonsense in this post and focus on the bolded portion of this post for a moment.  The majority of your party formed a personality cult around a sex predator whose campaign actively colluded with Russian intelligence during the campaign and who has actively pursued a blatantly pro-Russian foreign policy agenda whenever possible.  Unless you voted against Trump in 2016, you're in no position to criticize anyone for being soft on Russia.  I know intellectual honesty is hard to come by these days, but good lord, some of you guys are so full of sh!t it's insane.  I mean, give me a f***ing break!

If you did not vote for Trump in 2016 then I apologize for assuming the worst although your assessment of Obama's policies is still ridiculously inaccurate.

I left my presidential vote blank and voted down ballot for Republicans. I'm not some Trump stooge who ignores the blatant Russia pandering of the current president, but that doesn't mean I can't criticize the previous president for his failings.

I also seem to recall the previous President mocking Romney for "living in the 80's" when he warned about Russia's ambitions, during the 2012 campaign.

I'm not saying Obama was perfect on Russia by any means, I'm saying that if you voted for Trump you're in no place to criticize him for that.
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Chancellor Tanterterg
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2017, 05:47:36 PM »

I see three cardinal virtues in political leadership: kindness, caution, and conscience. The lack of any one of these creates trouble. Kindness is necessary for acting human ely, Caution keeps one out of problems that result from rashness. Conscience causes  one to make morally correct, if difficult choices.

Obama had all three. Trump has none of these. 

In fairness the only one Hillary had was caution and even that is somewhat debatable.
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