1913 Confederate Presidential Election

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Fun fact: I just realized North Carolina didn't secede the first time around ITL

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Fun fact: I just realized North Carolina didn't secede the first time around ITL

Yeah, the original secession was weird. What should the new Confederacy be?

Hmm...SC, GE, FL, AL, MS, TX, AR, TN, and just for fun, let's throw in a hopelessly isolated West Virginia and Delaware.  Secessionist conventions fail in NC, VA, MD, MO, KY, and LA.  It secedes from Virginia too after secession narrowly failed there.  The North Carolinians would probably be exiles.  The capitol should be Atlanta, that much is certain.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Fun fact: I just realized North Carolina didn't secede the first time around ITL

Yeah, the original secession was weird. What should the new Confederacy be?

Hmm...SC, GE, FL, AL, MS, TX, AR, TN, and just for fun, let's throw in a hopelessly isolated West Virginia and Delaware.  Secessionist conventions fail in NC, VA, MD, MO, KY, and LA.  It secedes from Virginia too after secession narrowly failed there.  The North Carolinians would probably be exiles.  The capitol should be Atlanta, that much is certain.

Really? Why do you think they'd fail in NC and LA?

Actually, they'd probably succeed in NC, as I think about it.  Louisiana has always had a weird and complicated racial hierarchy relative to the rest of the South.  In most of the South it seems like not white meant you were black.  In Louisiana, they took all the non-sense about 1/8 vs. 1/4 vs. 1/12 black very seriously, IIRC.  I feel like they'd be somewhat less fire-eatery in their racism at this point in the timeline (well, other than the Cajun areas, but that always struck me as more of "We have to be above someone on the totem-pole" than anything else").  I could be way off, but that's my understanding.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Fun fact: I just realized North Carolina didn't secede the first time around ITL

Yeah, the original secession was weird. What should the new Confederacy be?

Hmm...SC, GE, FL, AL, MS, TX, AR, TN, and just for fun, let's throw in a hopelessly isolated West Virginia and Delaware.  Secessionist conventions fail in NC, VA, MD, MO, KY, and LA.  It secedes from Virginia too after secession narrowly failed there.  The North Carolinians would probably be exiles.  The capitol should be Atlanta, that much is certain.

Really? Why do you think they'd fail in NC and LA?

Actually, they'd probably succeed in NC, as I think about it.  Louisiana has always had a weird and complicated racial hierarchy relative to the rest of the South.  In most of the South it seems like not white meant you were black.  In Louisiana, they took all the non-sense about 1/8 vs. 1/4 vs. 1/12 black very seriously, IIRC.  I feel like they'd be somewhat less fire-eatery in their racism at this point in the timeline (well, other than the Cajun areas, but that always struck me as more of "We have to be above someone on the totem-pole" than anything else").  I could be way off, but that's my understanding.

OK, I'll defer to your judgment. And are we considering Stone Mountain as a suburb of Atlanta? I like the KKK symbolism there.

Sure