Clash of Kings, an ASOIAF Game (The End)

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Isn't Margaery being pregnant with Renly's child rather OOC for Renly

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Isn't Margaery being pregnant with Renly's child rather OOC for Renly

OOC: The stated father isn't necessarily the real father - as you should know, Lord Tywin

OOC: Except that isn't the best example given that its pretty well established that ShowTywin really had believed that Joffrey, Myrcella, and Tommen were really Robert's children with Cersei.  That said, the point is still well taken.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Hopefully something will go right this time around

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

OOC: RIP Vargo Hoat  

Still, if he had to die, that was a pretty awesome way for it to happen

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Bigger fool you if you think King Joffrey or my House would ever ask your barbaric people for help.  The day we need the help of your ilk is the day Stannis Baratheon admits that his wife's bastard was fathered by his court fool.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I didn't die first

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

More importantly, who killed Jaime

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Even more importantly, who tried to kill me? Not that I didn't anticipate it...

The Hound or Stannis would my guess.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

His Grace celebrated a service of Thanksgiving at the High Sept in Kings Landing in order to celebrate the victory over the Lannister usurpers and commemorate the lives lost in the epic battle. Offering prayers to the Seven Gods, he led worship in thanks of their blessings.

Melisandre won't like this one bit

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

OOC: Now I have to figure out what to fight for beyond mere survival.  I have a large fighting force, but I mean really what more can I accomplish beyond killing Stannis to avenge Joffrey, Cersei, Jaime, and Tommon?  If Stannis and Renly die, then what?   Who am I saying is even King?  Joffrey dying instead of narrowly escaping certainly makes things infinitely harder   Decisions, decisions...

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

OOC: Now I have to figure out what to fight for beyond mere survival.  I have a large fighting force, but I mean really what more can I accomplish beyond killing Stannis to avenge Joffrey, Cersei, Jaime, and Tommon?  If Stannis and Renly die, then what?   Who am I saying is even King?  Joffrey dying instead of narrowly escaping certainly makes things infinitely harder   Decisions, decisions...

OOC: Daenerys is probably laughing her ass off at the whole situation.

So, basically, the Lannisters got served in more or less the same way the Starks were in "The Rains of Castamere". Just replace the four Stark kids with Tywin, Tyrion and Daven...

OCC: Don't forget Kevan, Stafford, and Damion Lannister!

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

OOC: Now I have to figure out what to fight for beyond mere survival.  I have a large fighting force, but I mean really what more can I accomplish beyond killing Stannis to avenge Joffrey, Cersei, Jaime, and Tommon?  If Stannis and Renly die, then what?  Who am I saying is even King?  Joffrey dying instead of narrowly escaping certainly makes things infinitely harder  Decisions, decisions...

OOC: Daenerys is probably laughing her ass off at the whole situation.

So, basically, the Lannisters got served in more or less the same way the Starks were in "The Rains of Castamere". Just replace the four Stark kids with Tywin, Tyrion and Daven...

OCC: Don't forget Kevan, Stafford, and Damion Lannister!

OOC: And Myrcella, for what it's worth. So you're still not quite as screwed as we were, though the Lannister family seems to be much more numerous (thanks to the Mad King!).

OOC: Still, Joffrey and Tommon dying really screws us.  Those dice don't like me one bit

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

To Lord Tywin Lannister:

Your house lies in ruins. Your kith and kin have departed this earth. Your army is wavering. Come now, and do not fight this useless fight. If you seek to keep your neck- all you have left, honestly- you will do what is wisest and lay down your arms.

Prince Renly Baratheon

OOC: Don't worry Simfan, we're good   I just feel like Tywin would be about ready to go Ramsay Snow on Stannis and Renly at this point

"My Lord,

My House lies in ruins, just as you say.  Much of my family has indeed been slaughtered by the wretched vermin of House Baratheon, some of them members of that very House.  However, you are mistaken if you believe all I have left is my neck.  In fact, it is not even the most valuable thing I have left.  All my life, I have lived for two things and two things only, my family and the legacy of my House.  Along with the Tyrells, you and your usurper brother have burned both of those things to the ground.  I have but one thing left and that is to avenge them.  I will show your House and all who align with it the same mercy which you showed my family.  You have spared two members of my House and so I will allow Edric Storm and Mya Stone to live the remainder of their days as prisoners should I capture them. 

However, I owe you and your brother a special debt and a Lannister always pays his debts.  Rest assured, this debt will be payed in full, even if it costs me my life.  When my forces have retaken Kings Landing, and rest assured they will, whether under the command of myself, my brother, Ser Marbrand, or another commander, the Mountain, Ser Gregor Clegane, will be permitted to do as he wishes with your wife and unborn child.  Fear not though, I have no doubt he will be every bit as merciful towards them as he was when your brother Robert had me send him after the Targaryen children.  While he may well rip her limb from limb, she may be dead by then which would make her death a good deal less painful than the one my eldest Grandson suffered at the hands of your mob just before he could reach safety behind my lines.  Any highborn not otherwise mentioned in this message from House Tyrell or House Baratheon will have their heads put spikes.  I will give Stannis' wife and the daughter she had with his court fool the same choice that you gave my daughter Cersei and my youngest grandson, Tommon.  They will be permitted to chose between poisoning themselves and being burned alive.  I have no doubt Stannis will approve as the wretched beast is reportedly quite fond of burning people alive.  I hear he would stand and listen to his victims screams in the dead of night during his days on Dragonstone.  One wonders what he would do to you, Lord Renly, if he ever suspected you of disloyalty.  Does it give you pause, to think about what might become of a shameless, sycophantic opportunist and would-be usurper such as yourself after the war, once Stannis Baratheon no longer has any need for you?  Fear not, we will never find out the answer.

I owe you and your brother a truly special debt.  I might just have to temporarily reintroduce the practice of flaying in order to pay it fully.  When you find yourself in the deepest of the black cells, Lord Renly, you will find time loses its meaning.  Days and nights, weeks and months, they all blur together, or so I'm told.  But one day, and rest assured the day will come (although you may be missing a few bits by then, but what's a few fingers here or an ear there), you and your brother will realize that everyone either of you ever carried for is dead thanks to your actions.  You will both realize that House Baratheon has been burned to the ground in its entirety.  All that will remain to suggest that your House ever existed will be a legacy of ashes.  One day you will know what it is to truly taste the ashes of your family, your House, and your legacy, and on that day you will know that the debt has been paid." - Tywin Lannister, Lord of Casterly Rock, Warden of the West, Shield of Lannisport

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

OOC: Oh my god, this is just freaking amazing! You were born for that role, you know? They should have casted you over Charles Dance

Thanks   I am glad folks are enjoying GameTywin, he is an extremely fun character to write for.  To be compared to Dance's performance even as a joke is high praise, indeed!  Anyway, this is just the warm up act, the main show starts whenever Roose Bolton becomes important here  

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Oh and while I'm here...

Does this mean I no longer get to play the Tyrells?

Who posioned me?!?!??

A Lannister always pays his debts

Note to Lumine: Obviously, I still don't want any details of the plot revealed until the end of the game.

Note to Willas Tyrell: Normally I wouldn't say this and I'm sure I'll regret it in a few turns, but I'll feel bad if the Reach Bolton plot kills you again right after you re-entered the game  For your sake, you should probably get on this sooner rather than later...

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

To Lord Tywin Lannister:

Your house lies in ruins. Your kith and kin have departed this earth. Your army is wavering. Come now, and do not fight this useless fight. If you seek to keep your neck- all you have left, honestly- you will do what is wisest and lay down your arms.

Prince Renly Baratheon

OOC: Don't worry Simfan, we're good   I just feel like Tywin would be about ready to go Ramsay Snow on Stannis and Renly at this point

"My Lord,

My House lies in ruins, just as you say.  Much of my family has indeed been slaughtered by the wretched vermin of House Baratheon, some of them members of that very House.  However, you are mistaken if you believe all I have left is my neck.  In fact, it is not even the most valuable thing I have left.  All my life, I have lived for two things and two things only, my family and the legacy of my House.  Along with the Tyrells, you and your usurper brother have burned both of those things to the ground.  I have but one thing left and that is to avenge them.  I will show your House and all who align with it the same mercy which you showed my family.  You have spared two members of my House and so I will allow Edric Storm and Mya Stone to live the remainder of their days as prisoners should I capture them. 

However, I owe you and your brother a special debt and a Lannister always pays his debts.  Rest assured, this debt will be payed in full, even if it costs me my life.  When my forces have retaken Kings Landing, and rest assured they will, whether under the command of myself, my brother, Ser Marbrand, or another commander, the Mountain, Ser Gregor Clegane, will be permitted to do as he wishes with your wife and unborn child.  Fear not though, I have no doubt he will be every bit as merciful towards them as he was when your brother Robert had me send him after the Targaryen children.  While he may well rip her limb from limb, she may be dead by then which would make her death a good deal less painful than the one my eldest Grandson suffered at the hands of your mob just before he could reach safety behind my lines.  Any highborn not otherwise mentioned in this message from House Tyrell or House Baratheon will have their heads put spikes.  I will give Stannis' wife and the daughter she had with his court fool the same choice that you gave my daughter Cersei and my youngest grandson, Tommon.  They will be permitted to chose between poisoning themselves and being burned alive.  I have no doubt Stannis will approve as the wretched beast is reportedly quite fond of burning people alive.  I hear he would stand and listen to his victims screams in the dead of night during his days on Dragonstone.  One wonders what he would do to you, Lord Renly, if he ever suspected you of disloyalty.  Does it give you pause, to think about what might become of a shameless, sycophantic opportunist and would-be usurper such as yourself after the war, once Stannis Baratheon no longer has any need for you?  Fear not, we will never find out the answer.

I owe you and your brother a truly special debt.  I might just have to temporarily reintroduce the practice of flaying in order to pay it fully.  When you find yourself in the deepest of the black cells, Lord Renly, you will find time loses its meaning.  Days and nights, weeks and months, they all blur together, or so I'm told.  But one day, and rest assured the day will come (although you may be missing a few bits by then, but what's a few fingers here or an ear there), you and your brother will realize that everyone either of you ever carried for is dead thanks to your actions.  You will both realize that House Baratheon has been burned to the ground in its entirety.  All that will remain to suggest that your House ever existed will be a legacy of ashes.  One day you will know what it is to truly taste the ashes of your family, your House, and your legacy, and on that day you will know that the debt has been paid." - Tywin Lannister, Lord of Casterly Rock, Warden of the West, Shield of Lannisport

Margery is at Highgarden, not the Capitol. Leave my sister alone!

 

I'm sure Reach Bolton will be happy to send her to Kings Landing once certain other matters have been attended to

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Oh and while I'm here...

Does this mean I no longer get to play the Tyrells?

Who posioned me?!?!??

A Lannister always pays his debts

Note to Lumine: Obviously, I still don't want any details of the plot revealed until the end of the game.

Note to Willas Tyrell: Normally I wouldn't say this and I'm sure I'll regret it in a few turns, but I'll feel bad if the Reach Bolton plot kills you again right after you re-entered the game  For your sake, you should probably get on this sooner rather than later...

Just as death changed LSH, so too has it changed House Tyrell. Your cities will burn, your people will hang, and your gold will be ours. You Tywin, you ingrate and craven, shall see your people killed, your family thrown asunder, and your entire life's work put to waste. House Tyrell has a few surprises in store and they all involve destroying you.

I still killed your Dad   And Reach Bolton's work is far from done...

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Oh and while I'm here...

Does this mean I no longer get to play the Tyrells?

Who posioned me?!?!??

A Lannister always pays his debts

Note to Lumine: Obviously, I still don't want any details of the plot revealed until the end of the game.

Note to Willas Tyrell: Normally I wouldn't say this and I'm sure I'll regret it in a few turns, but I'll feel bad if the Reach Bolton plot kills you again right after you re-entered the game  For your sake, you should probably get on this sooner rather than later...

Just as death changed LSH, so too has it changed House Tyrell. Your cities will burn, your people will hang, and your gold will be ours. You Tywin, you ingrate and craven, shall see your people killed, your family thrown asunder, and your entire life's work put to waste. House Tyrell has a few surprises in store and they all involve destroying you.

I still killed your Dad  And Reach Bolton's work is far from done...

OOC: Reach Bolton?

Someone needs to rule the Reach after you and your brothers are killed.  It seemed like as good a code as any for the poisoner given that it is the Reach and Bolton's role in the series after THAT event which shall not be named or otherwise spoiled.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

OOC: Oh my god, this is just freaking amazing! You were born for that role, you know? They should have casted you over Charles Dance

Thanks   I am glad folks are enjoying GameTywin, he is an extremely fun character to write for.  To be compared to Dance's performance even as a joke is high praise, indeed!  Anyway, this is just the warm up act, the main show starts whenever Roose Bolton becomes important here  

OOC: Well, I'm not going to screw things up the way the real Robb did, so he should never become that "important". But I'd love to have you on my side helping me fight for Northern independence.

Roose Bolton as Hand with Robb as King in the North would certainly be an interesting dynamic though

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

A Rose's Thorns:

   During Robert Baratheon’s Rebellion against the Targaryen Dynasty, the Reach was the region most loyal to the old order and the status quo. Even after the brutal sack of King’s Landing by Tywin Lannister (may he rot in the Seven Hells) we continued to besiege Storm’s End until we were forced to surrender.

   In the ensuing peace we may have feigned loyalty, but we never forgot. My father was exceptionally well at this, even getting my sister a marriage to Renly Baratheon, the man who would’ve been King. Our apparent loyalty was thrown in our face and my sister dishonored however, when Renly ceded the crown to Stannis Baratheon, a heathen and uncharismatic leader. Since Margery was pregnant with the child of Renly we had to make it appear as though we too remained loyal, but yet again we never forgot and now, looking upon our past, it is time to act.

   The Reach hereby recognizes Daenerys Targaryen as the Queen of the Andals and of the First Men, ruler over all of Westeros, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea and the Mother of Dragons.

        Long Live the Queen!

OOCish: Let the record show that this is the second time in three turns that the Tyrells have stabbed an ally in the back

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

A Rose's Thorns:

   During Robert Baratheon’s Rebellion against the Targaryen Dynasty, the Reach was the region most loyal to the old order and the status quo. Even after the brutal sack of King’s Landing by Tywin Lannister (may he rot in the Seven Hells) we continued to besiege Storm’s End until we were forced to surrender.

   In the ensuing peace we may have feigned loyalty, but we never forgot. My father was exceptionally well at this, even getting my sister a marriage to Renly Baratheon, the man who would’ve been King. Our apparent loyalty was thrown in our face and my sister dishonored however, when Renly ceded the crown to Stannis Baratheon, a heathen and uncharismatic leader. Since Margery was pregnant with the child of Renly we had to make it appear as though we too remained loyal, but yet again we never forgot and now, looking upon our past, it is time to act.

   The Reach hereby recognizes Daenerys Targaryen as the Queen of the Andals and of the First Men, ruler over all of Westeros, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea and the Mother of Dragons.

        Long Live the Queen!

OOCish: Let the record show that this is the second time in three turns that the Tyrells have stabbed an ally in the back

Says the man who sacked King's Landing while pretending to be loyal... we informed Renly that we were discussing with you all along. You were never our ally.

Also the Baratheons lost our alliance the moment that Renly lost the crown.

EDIT: This is a real Bolton-eque moment! Turning on my former ally because of a slight.

No, it is a Walder Frey moment.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Lumine, my brother Kevan Lannister is still alive.  Pretty sure he's one of my officers

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Lumine, my brother Kevan Lannister is still alive.  Pretty sure he's one of my officers

Sorry, I've killed so many people I lose track of them...

No worries

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Awesome map, Antonio, thank you!

And man, this turn has not lasted a day and I already have several assassination orders, you guys are getting a bit impatient, xD

Surely one of those is from Stannis

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Renly and Stannis should probably tell us something about what they want to do. It's not very clear right now.

OOC: It's not entirely clear what anyone wants to do. The Targaryens are allied with the Martells, the Tyrells, and the Greyjoys, the Greyjoys are aligned with the Starks, the Targaryens fight the Starks, the Starks fight the Lannisters, the Lannisters fight the Targaryens and Baratheons, nobody has any idea who the Lannisters want to see as King now, the Tyrells used to support the Baratheons but now support the Targaryens, the Greyjoys make off with Lord Tywin's treasury next turn, and nobody has any idea what Lysa Arryn is doing.

Also, the current Targaryen-Greyjoy-Tyrell-Martell axis can field just over 140,000 men if we called all our banners - the Lannisters have aroudn 46,000, while the Starks can call 54,000, the Baratheons have 23,000, and the Arryns have 35,000. #dominating

OOC:

1. As something of an authority in who the Lannisters are fighting, I don't recall ever declaring war on the Targaryens.  I want to avenge my family, Tywin is essentially in LS mode at this point (although hopefully GameTywin is more entertaining than someone who doesn't even speak ).  If the Targaryens will let me have my revenge, why should I fight them?  Renly and Stannis Baratheon aren't going to flay themselves

2. For someone who is motivated by profit, you're making a very odd move indeed.  I'm not really sure why you think all of my money is in the Westerlands, but...

3. I would say that everyone should be weary about allying with the Tyrells at this point.  First they were Renly's ally, then my ally (I know for a fact that they were not plotting against me when I first reached out to them), then aligned with the Stenly Baratheon alliance, and now they are allied with the Targaryens.  They seem to just bounce around to whoever his strongest on paper at any given moment.  Hardly the most dependable allies.  Even the Greyjoys were anti-Stark, then anti-Lannister/pro-Stark, then anti-Lannister/pro-Targaryen, then anti-Tyrell/pro-Targaryen/neutral about the Lannisters, now they're apparently neutral on the Tyrells/pro-Targaryen/anti-Lannister  Unlike the Tyrells though, I guess they have the excuse of only caring about plunder and profit, but still.  I wonder if Daenarys' position (strong as it appears) is quite so dominant as it seems on paper given that she is counting on the support of some allies with a pretty consistent history of double-crossing their allies and/or Houses that they were negotiating with.