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Erich Maria Remarque
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« on: August 30, 2016, 03:47:34 PM »

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I really hope, that he will soften up it a bit. I pretty damn sure that his 37% base is solidified and he can't practically lose them, whatever he says (some limits exist of course).

I really look forvard to hear it! Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2016, 04:09:59 PM »

Sounds like he's going back to a deportation force, wall, etc but with flowery language.
You know what! I'd love it. Trump sometimes is such a madcap, so it will be.
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2016, 04:12:06 PM »

He'll just muddy the water even more by contradicting himself in the space of 10 minutes to try and appeal to both moderate suburban white women and blue collar white men.

It's worrying how little he has thought about the one issue he based most of his campaign on

We will bygg the f**king wall for angry men.
Some soften rethoric about deportion for women.
Perfekt!
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2016, 04:51:51 PM »

If this can bring up Latino turnout in Arizona, so much the better.
It is all about of taking back latent neverTrumpers and undesiders. Little bit is about hispanics voters.
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2016, 04:52:26 PM »

I suspect in the end Trump will punt on the issue of deporting the 11m undocumented. He will emphasize how he will deport"the bad ones" (which Obama is already doing) and he will focus on the wall and "securing the border" and the other undocumented can apply only if they leave and apply from their home country. He will assure people there is no "amnesty" but  no specifics on the remaining ubndocumented until "after the border is secured".  Which is essentially the Ted Cruz position.
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2016, 07:35:34 PM »

I hope he won't lose what he gained today Undecided
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2016, 08:57:46 PM »

Let's dispel with this fiction that Trump was moderating on immigration, he is in fact moving even FURTHER to the right on immigration now.
Says who!
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2016, 09:16:15 PM »

I feel the same way.
What a strange slogan to put on a hat ..... especially for trump.
I wonder if the orange-haired clown can convince his Alt-right supporters to wear that hat.
We'll see if your prediction will come true. You last was not a very bright, huh? Smiley

Yes it is funny ..... the trump supporters are in denial again.
Pubs like Ryan and McConnell wouldn't touch this with a 10-foot pole. They know better. They are sick of having to defend trump, and refuse to do so, especially with this topic.
And HRC's speech IS paying-off .... it is the-talk-of-the-town today, as almost every media outlet is discussing it.
trump will be labeled and attached to bigotry and the alt-right from here until election day.
Good move (strategy) Hillary ! Love it.
For sure. I checked the polls twice. It is paying off Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2016, 09:28:21 PM »

I'm at work, but judging from the Hillary hack comments I assume trump must have given a great speech
LOL, yes. Probably little too dark.

I'm right now rereading this epic thread Hillary shot the Trump Campaign in Reno, Just to watch it die...
A lot of LOLs
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2016, 09:29:45 PM »

Trump sounds like HITLER tonight. Truly evil and must be defeated at all cost.
His campaign has been a perfect analogue of WWII

Declares his candidacy: Hitler comes to Power
Ahead of Jeb: Rhineland, Anschluss, Sudentanland
Doesn't die after the first debate: Fate of Czechloslovakia
Doesn't die after Iowa: Invasion of Poland
Jeb Drops Out: Fall of France
Marco Drops Out: Fall of the Balkans
Cruz Drops Out: Barbarossa
Curiel Comments: Failure to capture Moscow/Pearl Harbor
Comey Controversy: Stalingrad
DNC: Kursk

Now here we are before D-Day, the Allies are bogged down in Italy and the Japanese are giving a tough defense.
Haha! You made me laugh!
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2016, 09:32:27 PM »

So, what I take from this speech is:

*Deport DREAMERS
*Build a Wall
*Severely Limit Immigration
*Deport everyone
*Increase Deportation Agencies
*implement ideological test

what else did I miss
School classes?
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2016, 09:33:04 PM »

This! Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2016, 09:35:25 PM »

This man and his followers are monsters.
Everyone who wants secure the border is fascist!
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2016, 09:37:32 PM »

Angel Moms. Breitbart stays classy!
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2016, 09:42:33 PM »

This man and his followers are monsters.
Everyone who wants secure the border is fascist!

Big difference between "we need to secure the boarder" and "we will built a huge, deficit increasing wall and deport everyone in the country no matter what and Mexicans are evil".
He just doubled down [few times Grin] Obama's deportation politics.

Mexicans are evil? He didn't say it.
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« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2016, 09:50:04 PM »

I loved it, but it was dark, way to dark. We'll see Roll Eyes
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« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2016, 10:08:01 PM »

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Best part. Got many lols Grin
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« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2016, 10:13:13 PM »

This speech makes me wounder what they really talked about in Mexico Huh
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« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2016, 11:01:42 AM »

All the glorious Trumpers on CNN FB comments are now saying that once the wall is built we need to deport all of the media and non-Trump supporting Washington insider politicians to Mexico. Sig Heil!

Are these people ever going to realize that you can't deport US citizens?

[No, of course not.  It was silly of me to think so even for a minute.]

But they're just evil liberals so they don't matter, silly GeorgiaModerate, liberals aren't human!
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« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2016, 11:03:14 AM »

   With his calls for an immigration commission to evaluate the overall numbers of total legal immigration, Trump his channeling his inner-Bill Clinton, who had his own Barbara Jordan chaired immigration commission in the 90's (our liberal leaning posters would be intrigued to discover the overall findings of it btw).  
   By and large, he is calling for enforcement of existing immigration laws, I believe, unless I missed something.
President Clinton on Borders & Immigration, 1996
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« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2016, 11:13:07 AM »

  Doesn't Trump realize that he's trying to turn the US into another Finland. Of all European countries that were never part of the east bloc, Finland has had the least per capita immigration, at least until recently, and the traumatic impacts on Finnish society are being felt even today: plunging test scores, rampant political corruption, economic collapse, a destroyed labor movement, huge income inequality etc, etc.
   Ok, just kidding about all the negative effects.
Fascist!
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« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2016, 08:10:34 PM »

Surprisingly sane analysis from ABC News.
After Immigration Speech, Experts Weigh In on Feasibility of Trump's Plans
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Pretty much!

But one should not underestimate the power of rhetoric/words. Trump have truly mastered it Smiley
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