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« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2017, 02:56:52 PM »
The fact is Trump's record of governance is not flawless, the opposite. And voters want a President who will deliver the goods. To quote Donald Trump himself from the Art of the Deal, “You can’t con people, at least not for long.  If you don’t deliver the goods, people will eventually catch on.” He conned the voters in 2016, but in 2020 he will have to have delivered the goods. He hasn't delivered, and won't deliver, and that's why he's historically unpopular with a 38% approval rating and still falling.
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« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2017, 04:00:37 PM »
Comey's letter wouldn't have happened if Comey had followed standard DOJ procedure and treated it like he treated the FBI investigation of Trump-Russia, in not publicly commenting on it.
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« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2017, 04:01:53 PM »
Nate Silver gave Clinton only a 71% chance of winning, which given she had a 4-point lead in national polls on Election Day was seen as too pro-Trump by many people. However he was prophetic in realizing there was the 1/3 chance that Trump won and also getting that Trump would lose the popular vote.
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« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2017, 04:05:29 PM »
Quote from: ahugecat on October 12, 2017, 04:02:27 PM
Quote from: Pericles on October 12, 2017, 04:00:37 PM
Comey's letter wouldn't have happened if Comey had followed standard DOJ procedure and treated it like he treated the FBI investigation of Trump-Russia, in not publicly commenting on it.

The "Trump-Russia" BS was never commented on because Trump wasn't supposed to win.

First of all it's much more serious that the Trump campaign may have colluded with Russia than a nothing-burger of emails with no new info. And that's no way to judge it, Comey should have applied the same standard to both candidates rather than thinking "Clinton's sure to win, so I can break DOJ procedure and publicly undermine her days before the election."
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« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2017, 04:10:02 PM »
I thought Trump would be more unpopular, and to be fair even in the prediction made in October before Comey I only got the PV margin wrong by 3%, a similar error to the one you made yourself.
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« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2017, 04:12:00 PM »
On Election Day I thought 278 EV for Clinton was more likely though I held out hope that America would see through Trump.
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« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2017, 04:13:04 PM »
Comey was a lifelong Republican and a Bush appointee and the FBI was 'Trumpland'.
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« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2017, 04:14:22 PM »
It's wrong and stupid to dismiss the seriousness of foreign interference in a US election just because of petty partisanship.
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« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2017, 04:17:39 PM »
Now you're saying that it's OK for foreign countries to interfere in US elections?!
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« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2017, 04:19:07 PM »
If Hillary Clinton had colluded with Russia to hack the RNC and Trump campaign and this enabled her to win the election despite losing the popular vote by 2%, and then she obstructed justice by firing the FBI Director who was investigating said collusion. In that scenario Republicans would have already impeached her and be crying out for blood.
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« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2017, 04:21:04 PM »
It's insane that I've raised so many good points and you haven't bothered to challenge a single one. Thanks for admitting that I am correct!
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« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2017, 04:21:44 PM »
Roger Stone, a close friend of Trump and noted 'ratf***er' knew the Russians were coming for Podesta months in advance.
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« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2017, 04:22:26 PM »
Why, if Trump is innocent, does he act like he is guilty rather than let the process run its course?
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« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2017, 04:24:30 PM »
Why would the Russians go to such lengths to influence the election if they didn't want Trump to win? They interfered to help Trump, that's the CIA's verdict, not mine, as he was their preferred candidate.
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« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2017, 04:26:01 PM »
Look at what Stone actually said.
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« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2017, 04:27:38 PM »
Russia became a greater threat since 2012 with its aggression in the Crimea and Ukraine. And I never approved of what Obama and the Democrats said and they were wrong about Romney, indeed Mitt Romney, while wrong on many issues, was right on that and unlike Trump fit to serve and would have been a much better President.
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« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2017, 04:28:26 PM »
Diplomatic praise is not the same as actively hacking an opponent's campaign to advance your preferred candidate, likely with illegal collusion from that preferred candidate and their campaign.
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« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2017, 04:29:00 PM »
What we have found out so far is just the tip of the iceberg but already it looks very bad for Trump.
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« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2017, 05:08:40 PM »
Golfing? Trump has wasted so much more time golfing than Obama. The hypocrisy is unbelievable, he attacks Obama for golfing and then golfs much more than Obama.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/oct/10/who-plays-more-golf-donald-trump-or-barack-obama/
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« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2017, 05:50:58 PM »
Besides parties have got to score political points in an election it doesn't mean they don't understand foreign policym
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« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2017, 05:52:19 PM »
Trump hasn't delivered the goods so his bare win will likely turn into a defeat.
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