Governor Never Again Impeachment

[diptheriadan]

I can understand where he (Nev) is coming from, but the rules are the rules. Doing what he has done has stepped over the line. If the Governor can, at any time, threaten the legislature to do want he wants, the South goes from being a representative democracy to a third world dictatorship.

[diptheriadan]

Also, 'impeding progress' is too vague to be used as an excuse to suspend the rules. If this is the precedent we're going to set, it's waiting for a dictator to come in and turn the South into his own personal playpen.

[diptheriadan]

Nev, here's what I think you're not understanding.

You, the Governor of the South, decided that the rules of the Chamber were 'entirely and thoroughly unclear". Believing this, you introduced new rules for the Chamber. That is fine, absolutely fine, and entirely legal. But instead of waiting for the Chamber to vote on your new rules, rules which are only decided by the Chamber, you threatened the Chamber and the Speaker into opening an emergency slot for your new rules. Your reasoning for doing this was that Ben's bills were 'silly and detract from what we were all elected here'. Do you not see how easily abused this can be? Do you not see the precedent your setting? Do you not see how you have abused your power?

[diptheriadan]

It doesn't matter what the  f!ck Yankee did. Giving the Governor the authority to bypass the current rules of the chamber and the wishes of the chamber itself sets up a dangerous precedent.

[diptheriadan]

Would you mind finding me exactly where in the Southern Constitution it states you have the authority to do this?

[diptheriadan]

Would you mind finding me exactly where in the Constitution it states you have the authority to do this?

If we're reading the rules correctly, any Southern Citizen, Governor or otherwise, can. The Rules of Order as they now exist clearly give power to the Speaker to "organize... functions as deemed necessary". What was discussed was having the Legislature create an emergency slot, and the Speaker has used her power to do such entirely legally through the rules, that are done through Article 4, Section 9's allowing the legislature to establish their own rules.

Yes, but you threatened the Speaker into doing this. And there was no discussion. You basically gave fhtagn an ultimatum. Open an emergency slot for my bill or I will.

[diptheriadan]

You told the Speaker that either she was going to open an emergency slot or you were. You stepped over the line. You had no authority to do this.

[diptheriadan]

Also, where is this emergency? I will admit that we spend a little too long on Speaker vote, but the Chamber has only had 5 days to do anything. I have a feeling that by 'emergency' you mean 'the chamber's not debating what I want'.

[diptheriadan]

This isn't nonsense. We can't give the Governor, of whatever party, the power to decide what the Chamber should and should not do. We can't give the Governor the power decide what bills are worthy of consideration.

[diptheriadan]

In the America™ forum game, most governors have the power to call special sessions of the legislature. Would you consider that dictatorship?

I didn't say that what NeverAgain is doing is dictatorial. I said that by allowing him to do this and setting this precedent, it opens up the possibility of a Governor becoming one. It simply lets the Governor have too much power over the legislature.