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HisGrace
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« on: January 17, 2024, 03:53:18 PM »

Dule's post on the first page should have ended the thread and here we are.

Suggesting that any demographic discrepancy in employment is either the result of discrimination or biology is a false dichotomy as has been discussed on here ad nauseum. Unless you're going to suggest that the NBA being 90% black means that either the rules of basketball are inherently biased towards black people or that black people are magically better at basketball. Same deal with Asians and math. Running with the gender example I've never once in my life heard anyone suggest that gender discrepancies in fields dominated by women like primary school teachers, the humanities, PR, therapists and counsellors, compliance officers, exc are the result of discrimination against men. Or even that men are inherently worse at those jobs. Everyone just (probably correctly) assumes that the numbers are what they are because more women want to do those jobs in the first place than men.

Being a pilot isn't even that good of a good job. The average pay is right on the edge of 100k (not as much as it used to be with the cost of living these days), it's dangerous, and the hours suck. And yes, women care about work-life balance a lot more than men do as has been backed up by survey after survey on the matter, that's not me giving my opinion.

One of the left's huge blindspots is that you completely ignore individual level factors when looking at social phenomena. People make choices, everything is not social or biological determinism. 
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HisGrace
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2024, 04:54:54 PM »

Dule's post on the first page should have ended the thread and here we are.

Suggesting that any demographic discrepancy in employment is either the result of discrimination or biology is a false dichotomy as has been discussed on here ad nauseum. Unless you're going to suggest that the NBA being 90% black means that either the rules of basketball are inherently biased towards black people or that black people are magically better at basketball. Same deal with Asians and math. Running with the gender example I've never once in my life heard anyone suggest that gender discrepancies in fields dominated by women like primary school teachers, the humanities, PR, therapists and counsellors, compliance officers, exc are the result of discrimination against men. Or even that men are inherently worse at those jobs. Everyone just (probably correctly) assumes that the numbers are what they are because more women want to do those jobs in the first place than men.



 The NBA is 73.2 percent Black and increasingly foreign players including Blacks and Whites are making a bigger percentage of the league as talents scouts expand the global pool of where they look for players. Two of the best 5 players in the NBA are white men Luka Doncic and Nikola Jokic both from overseas. This illustrates how bad the anti-DEI arguments are. You expand the pool and you will find talented people everywhere.

 Secondly there was a time when the white supremacists thought Black people didn't have the aptitude/motor skills to play basketball, that you couldn't start 5 Black players and win a basketball game, these were real white supremacists beliefs, lol.

 Also at one time people believed Asians were very dumb just go back and read what people thought about Asian intellect in the late 1800s, the craziest things that were published as mainstream facts in newspapers.

73% is still dramatically higher than the 13% of the US population that is black so according to Kendi logic that would mean basketball itself is somehow "biased" towards black people or that black people are biologically better at basketball.

The next two paragraphs don't have anything to do with what I said. I never suggested that women were inherently worse pilots. I suggested that it is far more likely that fewer women try to be pilots in the first place than it is that an equal number of women want to be pilots and the discrepancy is just because airlines are discriminating against them.
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HisGrace
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2024, 06:30:08 PM »

So am I interpreting this correctly? They gave you bonus points for getting low science grades in school under the assumption that it would result in them hiring more black people? These woke white people in DEI are the most condescending racists.
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