There is something f’n rotten in major student orgs on campuses

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You can support a two state solution, pre 67 borders, or even think Israel shouldn't exist at all without advocating for the murder of random Jews by Palestinian terrorist groups.

This is the rooting for the underdog, "punching up" mindset taken to the furthest extreme. In their world if you're "marginalized" then nothing you do can be wrong and if you're the designated "oppressor" than nothing cruel anyone does to you can be undeserved. These people think real life conflicts are like Star Wars with a designated light and dark side.

How many of the people crying about this have spent the last decade complaining about the lack of free speech on campus? Seems like a near 1:1 especially with, say, Bari Weiss types.

I'm not calling for anyone to be expelled from school or face academic discipline for this. We just can and should call it out for what it is.

And on the other hand how many of the people doing and defending this have called for campuses to be inclusive safe spaces for all people and advocated for censorship to attain that goal. If these were right wing student groups talking about black people like this we all know they'd get immediately shut down.

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     The pro-Hamas sentiment of college student groups is the inevitable conclusion of a worldview that sees being oppressed as inherently righteous.

 What does this even mean? It sounds like nonsense.

Yes it IS nonsense, but it is actually what they believe. It's the same thing I talked about in my post.

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https://twitter.com/jnewsgabe/status/1717212376263786898

I guess Hamas murdering people for being Jewish doesn't make anyone feel unsafe, though.

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The left has had a disgusting soft spot for muslim terrorism throughout my entire lifetime. I don't get it.

When Muslim terrorists kill people it's ok because they're "punching up". If someone gets mad at them after they kill people and makes a mean political cartoon about Muhammed or makes a joke about kebabs that's bad because they're "punching down". How ethics work in SJWland.

 

The left has had a disgusting soft spot for muslim terrorism throughout my entire lifetime. I don't get it.

We elected a president who campaigned on a "Muslim ban." Half of the country spent much of the decade after 9/11 paranoid of anyone who looked like they might be a Mohammedan. I can remember a prominent member of Congress giving a speech warning of a day when this country's currency might bear the words "in Muhammed we trust." It doesn't surprise me at all that this has cultivated the reaction we see today.

None of that is as bad as the actions that provoked it, though. So Dems and the left shouldn't pay disproportionate attention to the backlash while ignoring the worse thing that caused the backlash.

https://twitter.com/wideofthepost/status/1712258074428293401?s=20

They've been doing stuff exactly like this to conservative activists on campuses for decades. But of course when it happens to them they can't take what they dish out.

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"Canceling" genocide supporters is good, actually. It's unambiguously good to expose people who support Nazi tactics and let people know if they're going to be hiring someone who wants them dead.

Let me say that I agree with this with the caveat that it's referring to people who are actually pro-Hamas, which is a disturbingly large number now but obviously doesn't include everyone who is critical of Israel's actions or pro-Palestine. This also would apply to supporters of something like Otzma Yehudit.

I have said before that saying the state of Israel shouldn't exist at all is something that is fine to debate and doesn't necessarily make you antisemitic. Supporting antisemitic terrorist groups who commit random ethnic killings of Jews does though. The Pro-Palestinian left have gone way over the line this time.

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It's a resolution, you can interpret it however you want. No reason not to vote for it unless you actually believe yourself to support terrorism or antisemitism.

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Does anyone find it strange there won't be any protests about Pakistan's expulsion/ethnic cleansing of Afghans by these people? i wonder why

You could point to scores of things happening all over the world that are significantly worse human rights abuses that anything going on with the Palestinians, which is largely the fault of their own awful leadership unfortunately. But they don't get 1% of the coverage that Israel/Palestine does. Which is a lot of where the antisemitism allegations come from, Israel is getting held to a standard that no other country does.

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I am personally pretty uncomfortable with universities expelling students for personal views, even if they are truly loathsome ones like this. But we all know if this was a white student saying he felt "joyful" when George Floyd died or something he'd have been expelled in two seconds. Which means Penn not taking disciplinary action here constitutes a tacit endorsement of what she said. Either free speech for all students or they're responsible for anything their students say if they're going to pick and choose what's allowed.

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what do the "give peace a chance" people say to the "from the river to the sea" people at the rallies?  You would assume they'd be on opposite sides, ya know, 'cause they want two very different things, but they seem to be on the same side.  If I were to throw a peace rally and those bigots showed up, I'd be super pissed.

The American "peace" movement has always had this hypocrisy. It's the same thing as students waiving VC flags while demanding "peace" in the 60's. Their definition of "peace" is just supporting whoever opposes America.

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Threads like this will be fun to revisit 11 months from now when leftists and red avatars will be begging young voters to GOTV

The Dems don't need twits like this. They need WWC, Hispanics, and big black turnout in cities in swing states like Philly and Detroit.