Jorge Ramos: Trump has Damaged GOP For Generations with Hispanics

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Trump's candidacy will have worse long term effects than short term effects. A more mainstream Republican (Kasich?)  could win next time, like Nixon in 68 after Goldwater, but the long term damage is done. Trump will have nearly the effect that Goldwater had on blacks in turning Hispanics off the GOP, plus the "generational effects" of turning millennials into Democrats forever due to the GOP being the "party of Trump". Nominating a Hispanic (and possibly having a Hispanic president leading the party for 8 years) is about the only thing that could change the tide with Hispanics. I'm not sure who it could be, though. I think Rubio/Cruz's presidential aspirations are dead in the water after all that's happened this cycle.  

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 Kasich or Rubio could potentially do quite well with the Latino vote in 2020.

The problem is that they do not represent the republican base.

No, the Republican base does not have anything against Hispanics.  The effort by Democrats to turn hispanics into an us vs them thing in this country is really disgusting.  Hispanics are extremly assimilated.  I live among many Trump supporters and nobody says boo about Hispanics.  Its really become a disgusting smear in the last couple years, and one that is damaging for the country, all for political gain.

Dude, have you been living under a rock during the past year and a half and not seen anything from Trump's campaign?

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Kasich or Rubio could potentially do quite well with the Latino vote in 2020.

The problem is that they do not represent the republican base.

  Hispanics are extremly assimilated.

I agree with this to a large extent, however Hispanic culture is inherently in favor of larger government. Stick your head in the sand all you want, despite all the rhetoric about Hispanics being "natural conservatives" this is still not compatible with Anglo conservatism, and I will admit the republican base is justified in their concern over what the demographic deluge will mean for the future of american politics, however they are the ones to blame for shooting themselves in the foot thinking this could be reversed.

Personally I never got all the fuss about Hispanics causing problems for Republicans in the long run, prior to Trump formally branding the GOP as anti-Hispanic/immigrant. Immigrants come here and start at the bottom, so of course they support Democrats, but gradually they will assimilate into middle class suburbia as their status grows and thus have the same interest as the GOP's middle class suburban base. There's no reason it had to be any different than the situation with Irish/Italian immigrants, until the Republicans decided to alienate them for the foreseeable future.

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Kasich or Rubio could potentially do quite well with the Latino vote in 2020.

The problem is that they do not represent the republican base.

  Hispanics are extremly assimilated.

I agree with this to a large extent, however Hispanic culture is inherently in favor of larger government. Stick your head in the sand all you want, despite all the rhetoric about Hispanics being "natural conservatives" this is still not compatible with Anglo conservatism, and I will admit the republican base is justified in their concern over what the demographic deluge will mean for the future of american politics, however they are the ones to blame for shooting themselves in the foot thinking this could be reversed.

Personally I never got all the fuss about Hispanics causing problems for Republicans in the long run, prior to Trump formally branding the GOP as anti-Hispanic/immigrant. Immigrants come here and start at the bottom, so of course they support Democrats, but gradually they will assimilate into middle class suburbia as their status grows and thus have the same interest as the GOP's middle class suburban base. There's no reason it had to be any different than the situation with Irish/Italian immigrants, until the Republicans decided to alienate them for the foreseeable future.

This isn't accurate.

People tend to vote same party for life.

Some of it is inter-generational. Irish/Italian/Polish American Catholics don't really vote more D than other white people anymore, so there's clearly precedent.