SCOTUS overturns Roe megathread (pg 53 - confirmed)

[Devout Centrist]

Real dumb move to leak this now, but it won’t change much in practice. State and local elections are about to get a lot more vicious.

[Devout Centrist]

For those people supporting this decision that say it should be left up to the states, I call attention to this article published in the Post just this morning:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/05/02/abortion-ban-roe-supreme-court-mississippi/

Cliff: Republicans in Congress are piosed to introduce a nationwide ban on abortion after six weeks.

This flies in the face of Commerce Clause and 10th Amendment jurisprudence. I would expect a majority like Bostock, if not larger, to strike down a law like this.

Lol

[Devout Centrist]

Very telling that a thread about an imminent threat to women's rights is immediately highjacked by people complaining about some loser in Minneapolis

[Devout Centrist]

Before the Ruling: "That'll never happen"; "You're delusional!"; "They would never overturn something with so much precedence"; "They told Senator Fu.ckelstein they would never overturn X"

After the Ruling: "Yes, they overturned this precedent, but they won't go any further!"; "You really think Justice McGillycuddy would do something like that?"; "The shadow docket is a valid exercise of the Court's authority"; "Seriously, you are being delusional!"

[Devout Centrist]

Before the Ruling: "That'll never happen"; "You're delusional!"; "They would never overturn something with so much precedence"; "They told Senator Fu.ckelstein they would never overturn X"

After the Ruling: "Yes, they overturned this precedent, but they won't go any further!"; "You really think Justice McGillycuddy would do something like that?"; "The shadow docket is a valid exercise of the Court's authority"; "Seriously, you are being delusional!"

Anyone who told you that Roe wasn't going to be overturned before this was an idiot. Not my fault you chose to listen to them. The Supreme Court still isn't going to overturn Loving or whatever you're blathering about.

It doesn’t matter to me. People have argued as much for decades, but we all knew Roe being overturned was a fait accompli when Trump won (even more so when Ruth kicked the bucket). I am calling out those in the press (and on this website) who have argued otherwise.

Also, Loving is not the precedent that I am worried about in this case. Nevertheless, I can understand the concern. Conservatives will push as far as they can with the Court over the next term. Almost as though they think they’re invincible.

[Devout Centrist]

Before the Ruling: "That'll never happen"; "You're delusional!"; "They would never overturn something with so much precedence"; "They told Senator Fu.ckelstein they would never overturn X"

After the Ruling: "Yes, they overturned this precedent, but they won't go any further!"; "You really think Justice McGillycuddy would do something like that?"; "The shadow docket is a valid exercise of the Court's authority"; "Seriously, you are being delusional!"

Republicans have been openly campaigning on reversing Roe for 40+ years

And they've been openly campaigning on reversing Obergefell for 7 years.

No they have not . Putting stuff on a virtue signaling  platform is different than actively campaigning on stuff .

Lol. Lmao

[Devout Centrist]

Pretty significant turnout at the protest I attended in Phoenix today - probably in the range of 2.5-5k? Not breaking any records obviously, but great numbers for such short notice.

Overall it was peaceful. There were a few counter demonstrators in blue MAGA hats carrying around crucifixes. Standard crazy person stuff.

The cops did start shooting off tear gas at us by the end of the night. A small group of demonstrators got near the entrance to the Capitol (no signs of forced entry or violence I might add!). Cops started firing tear gas without warning when that happened. They just can't help themselves!

[Devout Centrist]

Please do not get into an argument with the Stalinist over when life begins; fetal personhood is a very fringe position, even after this ruling. Additionally, it isn't remotely relevant to the debates that will go on in state houses across the country over the coming years.

[Devout Centrist]

Pretty significant turnout at the protest I attended in Phoenix today - probably in the range of 2.5-5k? Not breaking any records obviously, but great numbers for such short notice.

Overall it was peaceful. There were a few counter demonstrators in blue MAGA hats carrying around crucifixes. Standard crazy person stuff.

The cops did start shooting off tear gas at us by the end of the night. A small group of demonstrators got near the entrance to the Capitol (no signs of forced entry or violence I might add!). Cops started firing tear gas without warning when that happened. They just can't help themselves!

Speak of the devil:
https://twitter.com/nickmartin/status/1540872324500422656?s=20&t=sBOA3gqO43a...

[Devout Centrist]

https://twitter.com/leotomalley/status/1544034424429461505?s=21&t=5MFl0eYMut...

I think the only thing these polls consistently show is Americans don’t know what the hell they’re talking about when it comes to abortion. But it’s worth nothing this is one of the best polls for Dobbs defenders so far and still a solid majority are against the decision.

I honestly think most Americans aren’t really thinking about what weeks or trimesters mean in regards to the state of a pregnancy when answering these questions though.

Issue polls are generally worthless , so my belief is the best way to get a good snapshot on what public opinion is by the results of the Kansas referendum and then extrapolate from there  .

IMO it passes, but by single digits, notably closer than Trump vs. Biden.

Nah, these things tend to go down like lead balloons when the public actually gets to vote on them.

[Devout Centrist]

ABORTION IS ILLEGAL IN TENNESSEE!!!!

This is a direct challenge to BRTD’s decade long reign as King of Posting. Get in here and defend your crown, man