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« on: April 21, 2020, 05:18:13 PM »

It is a shame that an 86 year olds life means less to you people than the life of a 55 year old.
I can guarantee you it doesn't to him.
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3.  Healthcare rationing is present in every discrete medical interaction.  Every potential course of treatment contains an implicit cost/benefit analysis for the patient, institution and broader health system.  If it takes COVID-19 for us to realize that 80+ year olds really shouldn't be going to ICU to begin with, then at least our healthcare will (thankfully) be cheaper in the long run.
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(mostly infirm, would have died anyway of other things pretty soon)
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2020, 01:34:07 AM »

Your weekly reminder that we still have no plan for the next 12 months.
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2020, 02:08:50 AM »

Your weekly reminder that we still have no plan for the next 12 months.

Does the world? Sure, Mr. Trump and his admin are utterly incompetent, but I don't see other countries with a better crisis management have a detailed plan for the next 12 months either.
Other leaders have articulated what measures will be implemented in the near term and, while no one has a complete 'master' plan, other governments have provided local and provincial authorities with a better roadmap for the future.

The Federal Government has so far failed to provide anything beyond a skeletal plan for reopening the country. Major concerns of transmission post lockdown remain unaddressed, as do concerns about critical national supply chains.

The whole point of this lockdown was to buy time. Time to produce more gear. Time to send Federal resources to the states. Time to formulate a long term strategy. It has been six weeks since the start of this lockdown and over 111 days since China confirmed COVID-19's existence. Yet we are no closer to fixing our protective gear shortage.

Going for herd immunity, with no viable plan in place for protecting the public, will be disastrous. Suggesting people wear cloth rags as makeshift masks is not a solution!
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2020, 11:14:04 AM »

Okay, do you have any evidence to the contrary? The President has yet to speak of a long term strategy for containment. Perhaps this is all 'behind the scenes', but surely it would be much more transparent to tell the public what the Feds plan to do over the next year. Secrecy is not good in the midst of a global pandemic.

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These are just assertions based on fear. Dealing with the unknown is not a comfortable feeling for some people.
Our future is always uncertain, that's been true for all of human history. The problem here is that our government has yet to offer any meaningful contingency for that uncertain future. In fact, I'd argue that our uncertain future makes it even more important to articulate some kind of strategy.

We don't have a firm grasp of what will happen in the next year, but we can make educated guesses. And even if those guesses are proven wrong, we can adjust our strategy over time. Uncertainty is no excuse for a lack of preparedness.

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There is much more advanced medical thinking underway with the Task Force's medical experts.

They cover the response through a science driven process with paths you have not even thought about
Surely they have devised a strategy of some sort, but that's not my concern. I'm worried about the Federal Government's leadership and handling of their ideas.

The President is the ultimate decision maker. If his judgement is any indication, we are in trouble. Whatever 'plan' the experts devise, I have no faith in Trump to explain it to the public or execute it properly. He will break; it is in his nature.
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2020, 10:52:18 PM »

So you ram through a House bill that garners 14 Dem No’s and which you know is DOA in the senate for what reason? Stop playing politics, Nancy. Shame! Shame! Shame!
You are consistently the worst contributor to these threads. Are you capable of forming more than one thought at once?
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2020, 02:19:44 PM »

The US private healthcare system is being exposed as inadequate. The massive unemployment is also leaving many on the brink of being uninsured if they're not already.

 Time for some changes.

The U.S. has tested and treated more COVID patients than any other nation on earth,
That's not quite the high praise you think it is...
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2020, 11:09:15 AM »

A larger proportion of asymptomatic COVID cases in kids may actually be worse; an ostenibly healthy child is more likely to be in close contact with their parents, grandparents, or extended family. Couple this with relatively poor hygiene and the results could be catastrophic.
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