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« on: September 27, 2019, 05:09:52 PM »
« edited: September 27, 2019, 05:13:56 PM by Devout Centrist »

None of this has anything to do with what I said.  I support Warren's work in the CFPB and in general going after bad financial products and shady credit, rating and auditing practices like those that led to the great recession.  But we got that with the Obama-Biden administration, and things have been pretty solid since.  You don't need an overzealous revenge-warrior to get it done.  You just need a sensible, practical politician like Obama or Biden who can work within the bounds of the system.

Yeah, the Obama-Biden administration did a great job at prosecuting the people in the financial industry who ruined millions of people's lives by causing the Great Recession with reckless and criminal lending! An "overzealous revenge-warrior" in the White House might have dangerously upset the gravy train.

See, there it is.  You don't want a fair economy.  You don't want everyone to have a better shot.  You don't want income equality or economic growth.

You want to punish the bankers.  You want to throw people in jail.  That doesn't do anything for the economy.  But it gives you that sweet, satisfying revenge.

If that's your priority, great.  Vote for Warren.  She's the overzealous revenge-warrior you've dreamed of.
What the hell are you on about? Are you seriously suggesting that prosecuting the folks responsible for one of the worst financial crises in history means ignoring wider economic problems?

There was and still is a clear case to prosecute these actors. I'll also point that Dodd-Frank was a watered down compromise that left plenty of room for gross abuse and fraud by financial institutions. AND on top of that, the law has been effectively repealed in the past two years.

This isn't about revenge; it's about preventing future financial crises and abuse,
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2019, 10:18:57 PM »

The Warren campaign is rumored to have been reaching out to Andrew Gillum, recently, per reports.

Thoughts on the possibile ticket?

I don't think it could last against Trump. I can't see them winning the Rust Belt, possibly even losing Florida too.

Gillum lost. We need to get over him.

Yes, we ought to get over him, Mr. KANDER2020
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2019, 05:28:19 PM »

Black women are a decently sized voting bloc who are 98% Democratic. Turning them out is going to be important for any Democrat. I think we would all be better off with less racially polarized politics, yes. But as it is, this group has earned the respect they get from Democratic politicians.

But the marginal black voters, the ones who came out for Obama and maybe even HRC but who are not guaranteed votes in 2020, are mostly younger black men.

Which happens to be the group with abnormally high Trump support.
Mm, I'm not so sure. I think differential turnout is likely the culprit here.
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2019, 01:06:26 AM »

Black women are a decently sized voting bloc who are 98% Democratic. Turning them out is going to be important for any Democrat. I think we would all be better off with less racially polarized politics, yes. But as it is, this group has earned the respect they get from Democratic politicians.

But the marginal black voters, the ones who came out for Obama and maybe even HRC but who are not guaranteed votes in 2020, are mostly younger black men.

Which happens to be the group with abnormally high Trump support.

Ahahhahahah

Laugh all you want. There have been several polls suggesting this, including the recent NYT poll.
Again, I think turnout differentials and small sub samples in polling are the most likely culprit here.
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