Trump Jr./Russian lawyer meeting: Jr. knew info was part of Russian Gov effort

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Say what you will about Mr. Leip, but thank god he included an ignore button.

I don't see Senator Collins getting her way, though. And even then, it'll likely be closed testimony given in private.

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I didn't think you guys could get more pathetic. I was wrong

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Junior is going to be on Hannity tonight, so that should be must watch TV

He's gonna get an accidental Polonium stick on his way to the show

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This has the feel of an impending statement that goes, “I, Michael Richard Pence, do solemnly swear I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States…”

Unless Pence is involved too

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#StandWithTrump #StandWithBannon

Stand with them after they've been sentenced to the gallows, chaplain

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This has the feel of an impending statement that goes, “I, Michael Richard Pence, do solemnly swear I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States…”

You and I both know Trump isn't going to go down willingly.

In addition, there's a sizable percentage of the country who just doesn't care. Remember that poll saying that 43% of Americans trust Trump more than CNN/the media? That's going to come into play here.

That's a big difference between now and the days of Watergate (another set up, but that's another story). When Nixon was President the US had no right wing talk radio to speak of, no Murdoch press, no Washington Times, no Fox News, no Drudge, no Breitbart and of course no right wing social media. The liberal media in the US had an effective monopoly on shaping the narrative .

Lol

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As far as this goes, this is the smoking gun or close to it. There's no way Trump Senior didn't know of this meeting and we now have two instances where GOP operatives and the trump campaign attempted to get information from Russian operatives.

This does not even get into the business side of Trump dealings and let's be honest we've barely scratched the surface of all the criminal activities. Basically, this is the average day in Trump land if you take all their activities between 2008 and 2016 as a whole.

I suspect Mueller is sitting on far worse on than this.

In short, get ready for Pence if he's innocent; if he's complicit, get ready for Ryan.

Ryan may only be a caretaker, he will be hated by so many if he becomes President. May appoint someone VP, then step down.

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https://www.axios.com/inside-the-white-house-scramble-on-the-trump-jr-emails-2457466929.html

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Stone is a f**king moron

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Junior's gonna get an accidental Polonium stick or get pushed in front of a train.

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Again, Trump could be a child rapist and English Pete would argue the kids tempted him.

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Functionally, I'm curious, how do you defend Trump's speeches about the Hillary oppo and say that he wasn't aware of a meeting in his own building, with Don Jr, Manafort, and Kushner? He promised a press conference about Hillary's emails that very night and tweeted about it 15 minutes after the meeting. The information seems highly correlated with what the email said.

Basically, this feels like a smoking gun that Trump was open to collusion or actually did commit collusion with Russia's government. But to believe that the Podesta emails were unrelated to this - especially given Junior's statement of "later in the summer" is to defy explanation. You'll remember Roger Stone tweeted that it would be soon "Podesta's time in the barrel." It definitely feels like Trumpland knew ahead of time and were clear on the provenance of these Wikileaks. (Senior doesn't do email, for the record. It seems that this was handled at the top levels).

Basically, the set of facts between the Podesta emails, them being from the Russian government, and the timing (and backing up of that timing by Don Jr's emails) as well as Natalia Veselnitskay being linked to the Russian government implies very strongly that there is a plausible, even probable link.

This is an archive of Natalia Veselnitskaya's Facebook page. Lots of anti-Trump (and anti-Putin) images there. That added to the curious matter of how she got a Visa to get into the US after previously being refused. I think this is the smoking gun, I agree with you there. Its the smoking gun that indicates that this whole "Russia is interfering in our elections and colluding with the Trump campaign" was cooked up prior to June of last year.

That then obviously links in with all the other goings on later that were blamed on the Russians'  as these were obviously part of the same scheme. That would be why the DNC refused access to the FBI their servers to confirm that the hacking had taken place because there never had been a hacking, just a leak to be blamed on 'der Rushans'.

And let's not forget that the first request to the FISA court by the Obama admin to spy on the Trump campaign came in June 2016, shortly after this meeting. So this was not only a setup but was a set up designed to be a piece of theatre for the FISA court.

The latest revelations are clearly not a nothing burger. They are strong evidence of a key part of the Obama administration's plan to set up a bogus 'Russia/Trump' conspiracy narrative as an excuse to misuse the security services to spy on and undermine a political opponent.

I've seen pretzels twisted into less knots

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How much do I have to pay you so you never vote again?

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How much more pathetic can Trump supporters get? Find out next week on Russia Today!

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From the NYT reporter on this ongoing story:

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Who is the last person?