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GoTfan
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« on: June 12, 2017, 04:22:20 AM »

Hillary isn't even remotely close to 70% of what I want. What an absurd statement. Solis was the only liberal in Obama's cabinet and resigned because it was so unfriendly to liberals. Hillary's would be no better.

Perhaps not, but she was perhaps 70% of what Bernie wanted. This isn't a question of Obama vs. Hillary. It's Hillary vs. Trump. You ignored most of what I said before. If your only measure of success is getting 100% of what you want, you are going to have a miserable life. I really hope you're not that naive.

I have little doubt some Nixonian Republicans said the similar things too once, then Carter failed. Look where we are now.

Now there's all sorts of liberals wishing they could've voted for Ford just to stop it.

That wasn't my point at all, but I'd note that the right has mostly had its way with the country for the past 40 years or so. Left-wing economics hasn't even been given a chance in recent years. You have to go back to LBJ or even FDR to find a true left-wing economic agenda.

Stop with the hackery for Hillary for a minute and look at things logically. Clinton had everything laid out on a platter for her this year. By all rights, she should've steamrolled Bernie in Iowa and New Hampshire. She's just not that popular. She's ran twice against primary candidates who should've been easy to beat, and while she did win the primary, she never won a presidential election, and if she decides to run in 2020, despite what this forum says, she'll likely be crushed.

She had one of the worst campaigns imaginable. Populism works, but you won't acknowledge that because Hillary is entitled to the Presidency, apparently. The whole "I'm with her" crap is way too easy to spin as people supporting the ego of a candidate  (and i believe we saw the two most egotistical candidates this year in Clinton and Trump). Not to mention, she lacked a cohesive message. One second she was a pragmatic moderate, next she was more progressive than Bernie.

Get over Hillary and look to the future. As a Bernie diehard, I'd be happy to back Warren, Merkley,  Ellison (should he run),  Baldwin or Sherrod Brown. Booker, Cuomo, Gillibrand? No.
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