Maps!

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

Given Labor's performance in the mayoral races, I'm gonna disagree with WB's county map. Given the NPC elections, Labor tends to do much better in rural areas. We struggle in cities. So, perhaps LT wins Illinois' collar counties, maybe even Cook County itself, but Labor does very, very well downstate.

We probably also win the Rio Grande Valley and a few small random counties in the Texas Panhandle like in the 90's, but we lose Dallas, Austin, and San Antonio. Harris County was also pretty reliably Republican under the current (RL) alignment, so I won't object to the shading there.

And in Iowa I'd probably trade some of the more populous counties to LT, too, in exchange for the smaller ones.

I know I'm nitpicking, but that seems to be what our weird-ass 'trends' point to. Labor does well in rural areas and states, but as of now we only control two cities and they're both in the same state (with changes to come, hopefully...)

Also: I'm 99% sure Nebraska is the only state where all counties flip depending on whether you're looking at the presidential race, the Regional Senate race, or the Subregional Senate race.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

I tried creating a map, but pretty much gave up because I can't find a reliable mapmaker that works on my Chromebook. Here's a preview of what I was trying to make though, and I spent way too much time just getting this (second round, of course):



I tried to do a little bit of everything, combining old coalitions with the dynamics of Sev/LT. Southwestern PA goes back to its roots and we pick off a few rural and former coal counties in Central PA, but Labor loses the growing Philly suburbs. Old school Calvinists (like RFayette himself!) mostly reside in Northwest Iowa, as is the case in real life, but a narrow Labor win in Iowa is basically the 2012 map with more rural counties in LT's territory.

In Illinois, Labor barely managed to win Cook County. LT dominates the suburbs. But the prairies go to Labor.

Labor loses Oklahoma but wins back Little Dixie. I talked about Texas earlier, but Labor loses in every major city except for El Paso and maybe San Antonio.

Virginia was intended to look somewhat like the 2009 gubernatorial race, although I was probably a bit too generous to Labor in the far-southwest/Appalachia. Federalists dominate in NOVA as the GOP did historically, and so a hypothetical Labor win in Virginia looks more like 2001 VA-Gov.

Had I gotten to Georgia, I would've made a similar map to 2020-Pres, but Newton, Cobb, and probably Gwinnett go to LT.

Obviously, 100% Sev states and 100% LT states are completely colored for their respective parties.

I waffled a bit on Orange County, CA. This is a likely YT-Sev swing county.

In Wisconsin, Labor gains enough in the Driftless Area and does very well in Milwaukee and Madison to win the state. WOW stays solidly Fed until the end of time.

For Ohio, I was aiming for a combination of Obama 2008/Brown 2012.

But I can't isolate states without losing everything else, and the site doesn't zoom properly for me.

Still, I think that's enough information for an idea of what I was going for. PA in particular was fun.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

I tried creating a map, but pretty much gave up because I can't find a reliable mapmaker that works on my Chromebook. Here's a preview of what I was trying to make though, and I spent way too much time just getting this (second round, of course):



I tried to do a little bit of everything, combining old coalitions with the dynamics of Sev/LT. Southwestern PA goes back to its roots and we pick off a few rural and former coal counties in Central PA, but Labor loses the growing Philly suburbs. Old school Calvinists (like RFayette himself!) mostly reside in Northwest Iowa, as is the case in real life, but a narrow Labor win in Iowa is basically the 2012 map with more rural counties in LT's territory.

In Illinois, Labor barely managed to win Cook County. LT dominates the suburbs. But the prairies go to Labor.

Labor loses Oklahoma but wins back Little Dixie. I talked about Texas earlier, but Labor loses in every major city except for El Paso and maybe San Antonio.

Virginia was intended to look somewhat like the 2009 gubernatorial race, although I was probably a bit too generous to Labor in the far-southwest/Appalachia. Federalists dominate in NOVA as the GOP did historically, and so a hypothetical Labor win in Virginia looks more like 2001 VA-Gov.

Had I gotten to Georgia, I would've made a similar map to 2020-Pres, but Newton, Cobb, and probably Gwinnett go to LT.

Obviously, 100% Sev states and 100% LT states are completely colored for their respective parties.

I waffled a bit on Orange County, CA. This is a likely YT-Sev swing county.

In Wisconsin, Labor gains enough in the Driftless Area and does very well in Milwaukee and Madison to win the state. WOW stays solidly Fed until the end of time.

For Ohio, I was aiming for a combination of Obama 2008/Brown 2012.

But I can't isolate states without losing everything else, and the site doesn't zoom properly for me.

Still, I think that's enough information for an idea of what I was going for. PA in particular was fun.

This doesn't line up with margins, in a world where a left wing party is getting 40% in Pennsylvania, they are absolutely not winning places like Greene County. Also the Illinois map makes little sense, voting patterns don't just magically change and places like Rockford, Peoria, Champaign, etc. are more like DuPage/Kane than rural farm counties anyways. Again people vote, not land. Demographics cannot be ignored, in fact it should be noted many of the rural places where Democrats slipped IRL lost significant amounts of population, while many of the suburbs where they gained gained significant amounts of population. The "vote switching phenomenon" is generally overrated in political science as a whole, population losses or gains tend to be far more predictive.

I mean, two votes could've moved the entire election and the left still would have won Wyoming and the Dakotas.

I essentially just flipped the suburbs in PA, and took some inspiration from Tom Wolf's 2014 map. It was very close either way in PA, and I tried to reflect that.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

God, this is tedious.

Pennsylvania was one of the closest states in the election. This map is an attempt at reflecting that. Atlasia maps are not real life maps.

Christ.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

And yet Chicago and NYC both have popular Federalist Mayors! And Labor consistently performs better statewide than in the inner city mayoralties!

How hard is it to understand that Atlasia isn't the same as rl politics.

Statewide =/= federal, this is not really a valid point. Besides there is no rhyme or rhythm to the NPC election results sometimes, anyways the best counter to this is that the 1993 NYC Mayoral did not mean that NYC would vote right of the state for the next 20 years. Quite frankly, the only reason we're even having this argument is because some people want to feel good about themselves by imaging that Atlasia takes place in some bizarro world where rurals vote for the left, because it makes them feel #populist, idk why they need that satisfaction, but apparently they do. Also this isn't even class-based voting, so that argument doesn't work (not that pure class-based voting is that common, but whatever), because Chicago is absolutely not an affluent city (median household income of 47k).

Just post your own map. This is such a stupid conversation I think I'll blow my brains out if you bitch about ours again.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

That feel when the three major parties essentially agree on everything except maybe abortion, gun control, and approach to environmental conservation, with mavericks on both sides of two of those issues.

Makes me wish there was a Trumpian or far-right movement in Atlasia to make things interesting, but they would lose a national election very badly.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

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