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« on: June 13, 2019, 05:59:24 PM »

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Maine legalized medically assisted suicide on Wednesday, becoming the eighth state to allow terminally ill people to end their lives with prescribed medication.

Democratic Gov. Janet Mills, who had previously said she was unsure about the bill, signed it in her office.

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Maine's bill would allow doctors to prescribe terminally ill people a fatal dose of medication. The bill declares that obtaining or administering life-ending medication is not suicide under state law, thereby legalizing the practice often called medically assisted suicide.
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Good for Maine.
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2019, 07:20:48 PM »

How is this good news??

People should not be allowed to choose to end their life??

Plus, they could possibly be tricked into doing this, bad idea!

People don't need the government to tell them whether they can end their own life.  You can never outlaw suicide, anyway.  The law passed in Maine allows people, who are already dying, to die with dignity.
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2019, 07:27:56 PM »

How is this good news??

People should not be allowed to choose to end their life??

Plus, they could possibly be tricked into doing this, bad idea!

People don't need the government to tell them whether they can end their own life.  You can never outlaw suicide, anyway.  The law passed in Maine allows people, who are already dying, to die with dignity.

It's not death with dignity when it's murder disguised as mercy so greedy survivors can get Grandma's inheritance earlier.

Grandma's already dying.  That is what the bill is intended for - terminally ill patients.  In what way does Grandma benefit from suffering needlessly for six months?
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2019, 08:26:28 PM »

How is this good news??

People should not be allowed to choose to end their life??

Plus, they could possibly be tricked into doing this, bad idea!

People don't need the government to tell them whether they can end their own life.  You can never outlaw suicide, anyway.  The law passed in Maine allows people, who are already dying, to die with dignity.

It's not death with dignity when it's murder disguised as mercy so greedy survivors can get Grandma's inheritance earlier.

Grandma's already dying.  That is what the bill is intended for - terminally ill patients.  In what way does Grandma benefit from suffering needlessly for six months?

I just really feel uncomfortable with there being some sort of OBLIGATION to life.

What does "terminally ill" mean?

At a certain level, we're all dying.  There are people who have cancer that will die from it whose death may not happen for years, and who may have a decent amount of productive living in between that point.

Rebecca VanWormer, the woman who pushed for this bill whose breast cancer spread to her bones, could probably answer that question for you.  You know damn well there's a difference between prostate cancer, which may not kill a man for decades, and something as painful and debilitating as terminal cancer.

Even for you, this is an extremely disingenuous argument.
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2019, 08:59:41 PM »

How is this good news??

People should not be allowed to choose to end their life??

Plus, they could possibly be tricked into doing this, bad idea!

People don't need the government to tell them whether they can end their own life.  You can never outlaw suicide, anyway.  The law passed in Maine allows people, who are already dying, to die with dignity.

It's not death with dignity when it's murder disguised as mercy so greedy survivors can get Grandma's inheritance earlier.

Grandma's already dying.  That is what the bill is intended for - terminally ill patients.  In what way does Grandma benefit from suffering needlessly for six months?

I just really feel uncomfortable with there being some sort of OBLIGATION to life.

What does "terminally ill" mean?

At a certain level, we're all dying.  There are people who have cancer that will die from it whose death may not happen for years, and who may have a decent amount of productive living in between that point.

Rebecca VanWormer, the woman who pushed for this bill whose breast cancer spread to her bones, could probably answer that question for you.  You know damn well there's a difference between prostate cancer, which may not kill a man for decades, and something as painful and debilitating as terminal cancer.

Even for you, this is an extremely disingenuous argument.

I'm not unmindful of this.  My own mother died of cancer in the 1990s.  It was a cancer that lasted a number of years, involved pain in both the disease and the treatment, and my mother was very much pro-assisted suicide.  It was during the time when Dr. Jack Kevorkian was being tried for his assisted suicides.  Someone asked my mother what she thought about him.  Her eyes lit up and she said, happily:  "Oh, he's the greatest!".

I'm not questioning the motives of this bill's sponsors.  I do fear that such a thing has the potential for horrific abuse.  And the definition of "terminally ill" has the potential to be a movable legal goalpost that would, indeed, legalize murder in some cases. 

That's where I'm coming from on this.

Is there any evidence of abuse in the seven other states where physician-assisted suicide is legal?  In Oregon, a patient can only end their life through assisted suicide if they have six months or less to live.  I don't think it matters to a selfish person whether their relative has six months or six days.  Both the patient and the doctor have to consent, so I don't see how it can really be murder.  A doctor cannot administer the drugs to a man whose prostate cancer hasn't metastasized.

I am glad you're keeping an open mind on this.
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