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Question: Transgenderism and Transhumanism
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Support Transgenderism, Oppose Transhumanism
 
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Oppose Transgenderism, Support Transhumanism
 
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« on: May 29, 2017, 01:13:24 AM »
« edited: May 29, 2017, 01:15:16 AM by Senator Scott »

They are not related or comparable to each other at all.  Transgenderism refers to gender identity or an umbrella of gender identities, and trans and non-binary people have existed all throughout human history.  Transhumanism is a new movement that seeks to expand human capabilities to their highest potential through use of new and continuously improved technology, to the extent that technology becomes the driving force behind human evolution rather than natural selection.

A trans person doesn't want to expand their physical capabilities, only to match their physical traits (sex) to what they are psychologically (gender).

Extreme body modification doesn't fit into either of those categories, although there are some people who insist that they are actually dogs or cats or lizards and try to match their appearance to such.  But that's more of a subculture than an identity.
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2017, 01:46:19 AM »

They are not related or comparable to each other at all.  Transgenderism refers to gender identity or an umbrella of gender identities, and trans and non-binary people have existed all throughout human history.  Transhumanism is a new movement that seeks to expand human capabilities to their highest potential through use of new and continuously improved technology, to the extent that technology becomes the driving force behind human evolution rather than natural selection.
Transhumanism, as you describe, is not a new movement. Eugenics, folk medicine, etc. - the Devil's toys.

Eugenics historically was strictly biological, not technological.  The concept of artificial intelligence and cyborgs (which is what transhumanists want people to essentially become) is extremely new.  Folk medicine is proven pseudoscientific nonsense, hence why no one outside of a select few religious/New Age groups tries "improving" them.
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2017, 01:50:52 AM »

They are not related or comparable to each other at all.  Transgenderism refers to gender identity or an umbrella of gender identities, and trans and non-binary people have existed all throughout human history.  Transhumanism is a new movement that seeks to expand human capabilities to their highest potential through use of new and continuously improved technology, to the extent that technology becomes the driving force behind human evolution rather than natural selection.
Transhumanism, as you describe, is not a new movement. Eugenics, folk medicine, etc. - the Devil's toys.
Yeah, it's always been around.
Eugenics, selective breeding, Alchemy and the pursuit of eternal life, Gilgamesh, Superheroes like Superman and Spider-Man and Captain America, etc.
The desire has always been there.

And as I said, both transgenderism and transhumanism are both based on the idea of a Right To Morphological Freedom. It's your body, change it as you wish. Modern-day "transitions" fore transgender people were once the hypothesis of transhumanists.

That is an argument they use, but transhumanists don't view themselves as "super humans" restricted by their biology in the way that transgender people do not "feel" the gender they were assigned at birth.

There's not much more to say than that, really.
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