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  In which country is there more respect for freedom? USA or Norway? (search mode)
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Freshly-touched grass
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« on: May 19, 2016, 10:17:15 PM »
« edited: May 19, 2016, 10:19:16 PM by ascott »

Hard to say.  Norway forces people to serve in their military, so that scrapes quite a few points off their "freedom scale."  Gun rights are also far more respected in the US than in Norway... but then you get less folks getting shot in the streets every year.  On the other hand, police in Norway almost never use lethal force and the last time they actually killed someone was 2006.

As for free speech, that's also one of few areas where the US can legitimately claim to be "better than everyone."

I guess I'd give the slight edge to the US on this one, mainly because of the draft.

Is Norway one of those socialist countries where they have universal healthcare and other so called "unAmerican" things? Is it a country that doesn't start pre-emptive wars against countries like Iraq?
Just wondering. Not that that has anything to do with your question. It's just that some Clinton supporters keep saying things like we don't want to be like those socialist European countries and support a "commie" like Bernie Sanders.

I mean, Norway's a NATO country, so they kind of just go along with the rest of the Western powers on the foreign policy front.
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2016, 12:22:15 AM »

The answer is obvious.  It's the one where being gay is not an issue, where they don't lock people up for 25 years for simple drug possession, where freedom of speech and freedom of religion are truly understood, where women's reproductive rights can be taken for granted, etc.

Freedom isn't all about lasseiz-faire economics and guns.

Literally every single European country has worse freedom of speech than us.  We don't punish people for having terrible opinions, like Holocaust denial.

Is this sarcasm or do you really think the height of freedom is being able to say "the holocaust never happened"?

If you want to censor speech that's offensive, you don't support free speech at all.
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2016, 07:56:11 PM »

USA. Norway is virtually a prison.

Which would be pretty bad if Norway didn't have superior prisons.
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