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« on: March 05, 2014, 01:37:50 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2014, 01:43:03 PM »

Although I disagree with the notion that state recognition of unions (whatever you want to call them) should be termed differently based on whether it's a heterosexual or homosexual union, it's hard to really ask for more from the Pope.

Of course I'd also welcome church recognition of same-sex unions, but it's more important to not stand in the way of equality before the law, as a first step.

Francis continues to impress at any rate.
Yes, Francis is extremely good as Pope. I hope some former catholic, who are now atheist, will rejoin the Church. I definitely being a catholic with this pope!

Why would an atheist become Catholic again? Having a more tolerable Pope won't cause someone to start believing in God.

At the very least, it will slow down the bleeding of membership from the Catholic Church that's been occurring for so long.  If God and His word were imagined differently and preached more lovingly than they are today, chances are most churches wouldn't be experiencing the drop in attendance that they are now.  If a church fails to maintain relevance, or tries to outright exert itself on people, then modern society will become far less interested and the church will collapse under its own weight.  There is no personal incentive to worshiping something that's cruel, vengeful, and intolerant.  Since that is how God is portrayed 90% of the time, clergy are practically telling people they don't want them in their churches.  Many religious leaders are coming to realize this now, but Pope Francis is the one with the most influence who's doing something about it.  Sadly, I feel it may be too little, too late.
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2014, 05:24:54 AM »

Religion, of course, will always be looked at with the lens of its era.  The word "faith," for example, appears to have evolved in meaning simply because the way we attain and define knowledge has changed over the last hundred years.  People today are more skeptical of theological interpretations of Christianity because they are more inclined to challenge longstanding tradition and theories (not saying that's a bad thing), but ultimately the source of that information is going to matter, especially if one side of the story dominates the conversation, and therefore lays the foundation for what segregates religious opinion.

To back up on one point afleitch made, a recent survey found that while the number of non-religious Americans has gone up, nearly 70% of those people report belief in a God or higher power.  This suggests to me that while the mechanics of mainstream religion are being brought into question, the essence of theistic religions, 'God,' is still commonly accepted and embraced.  People are not ready to completely abandon the notion of a greater being even though the messaging has been corrupted throughout the history of mankind.

My point is, we should not understate the importance of messaging.  Putting biases aside, it's plainly obvious that organized religion has become unappealing to people and is slowly becoming a taboo subject.  If more Christian leaders abandoned the knee-jerk response against transforming the church to be more in line with the changing times without compromising on core values, it might not reverse the trend, but it would slow down the growing abandonment of religion.
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2014, 11:08:18 PM »

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Again, the way churches treat LGBT people may not be the only thing that plays into why people are abandoning Christianity, but it certainly has a significant role.  I don't find think this should be particularly surprising to anyone, though.
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