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« on: February 21, 2014, 01:49:42 PM »

I must be missing something here, because the crux of the man's argument is that Democrats are better off talking about "effective and efficient government" instead of how big or small it should be.  Yet, is that not what Democrats capitalize when they campaign regardless of the state or region they're in?  Did Mark Warner and Tim Kaine build that strong coalition in Virginia all by themselves?  Or, did national Democrats decide to actually contest their races and get determined to turn Virginia into the next Florida or Ohio?

The problem is that Democrats have abandoned the 50-state strategy.  We don't bother contesting races in Wyoming or Kansas or Tennessee anymore - three states which, of course, had Democratic governors not too long ago.  We write off those states and more before campaign mode even begins.  2008 was the last year Democrats poured anything into hostile territory.  Indiana and North Carolina wouldn't have swung if those state parties were left on their own.  Democrats need to do more than talk about money - they need to spend money.
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2014, 02:11:32 PM »

I must be missing something here, because the crux of the man's argument is that Democrats are better off talking about "effective and efficient government" instead of how big or small it should be.  

Which is where the populism comes in Smiley

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If that means talking about Obamacare instead of running away from it, then I can see the author's point.
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2014, 10:07:32 AM »

Some people here seem to be under the impression that people only vote on social issues.

Let's put that myth to rest.  Again.
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2014, 12:36:01 PM »

The thing is, although poors in the Deep South may be more Republican overall than their Northern counterparts, Obama still won them.  The often touted idea that "poors vote against their economic interests" is very much exaggerated.

It remains a mystery, to me at least, why 60% of voters in Mississippi said that Romney is more in touch with them.  But, I contest the notion that social issues is the defining factor.  Whether Democratic economic policies help these voters or not is irrelevant, because obviously the voters themselves don't think they do.  That is the problem here.
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2014, 01:36:14 PM »

The under 50k income vote is almost certainly heavily weighed by black voters, and blacks fall well below the poverty line in Mississippi, so it's hard to tell just how poor whites voted, but it's highly likely it wasn't for Obama.

That's a valid point, so that then would indicate the strong likelihood of a racial divide among voters.  That's a far superior explanation to the argument that social issues like gay marriage and abortion dominate in Southern elections.
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2014, 02:52:06 PM »

Yankee, are you suggesting that the problem for Democrats is that they're too fiscally conservative?
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