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I'm quite pleased by these numbers.  The momentum is certainly there for us to begin a new leftist party.

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I'm quite pleased by these numbers.  The momentum is certainly there for us to begin a new leftist party.

Stop calling yourselves 'leftist' and 'progressive' - you all clearly are not. It's nothing more than the latest reincarnate of "Super duper centrist, we want to broker power because we're just as powerhungry as everyone else and feel slighted by some other party" Party, so start calling yourselves that. Grow up, admit that you guys lost the battle for the left and assimilate if you are actual leftists. Labor is clearly the most superior party in this game, and of course the haters are going to hate. You guys are grasping for straws, and the only power you have is to sink your so-called ideology and hand a victory to the right - soo 'leftist'!

61% approve of the party that seeks to abolish the minimum wage and Social Security but hides it by pretending that it stands for nothing? Wow, I guess this sample size is either skewed heavily to the right like all polls or too many have let personal issues supersede their ideological positions. None of this is new, though: the haters have been prognosticating our demises for months and months now, yet the electorate always has seems to disagree in the end. I'm sure plenty of those people will be part of this new 'leftist' party, though.

Haha, I take it you don't like the results, eh?

Tell me this, asshole.  Just who the fuck died and made you king?  Who gave you the right to decide who is progressive and who is not?  More people approve of the Federalist than Labor probably because they don't exist for the sole purpose of pushing an ideology.  Federalists care about governing more than riling people up or trying to alienate themselves for the sake of purity.

The numbers are simply not on your side anymore.  Unless Nix or DemPGH are on the ballot in two months, a Federalist has a very good chance of getting elected.  And now Labor is one of the most hated parties in the game.  Facts are facts.  I've already said I'd vote for Nix or DemPGH, and yes, there is even a chance that I will support other sensible Laborites if they run, but people like you are not making me any more likely to support them at all.  And if you're okay with the fact that you being a huge cunt is aiding your opponents, then great!  I suppose we don't have a problem here.  I'm sure the Federalists don't, either.

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I'm quite pleased by these numbers.  The momentum is certainly there for us to begin a new leftist party.

Stop calling yourselves 'leftist' and 'progressive' - you all clearly are not. It's nothing more than the latest reincarnate of "Super duper centrist, we want to broker power because we're just as powerhungry as everyone else and feel slighted by some other party" Party, so start calling yourselves that. Grow up, admit that you guys lost the battle for the left and assimilate if you are actual leftists. Labor is clearly the most superior party in this game, and of course the haters are going to hate. You guys are grasping for straws, and the only power you have is to sink your so-called ideology and hand a victory to the right - soo 'leftist'!

61% approve of the party that seeks to abolish the minimum wage and Social Security but hides it by pretending that it stands for nothing? Wow, I guess this sample size is either skewed heavily to the right like all polls or too many have let personal issues supersede their ideological positions. None of this is new, though: the haters have been prognosticating our demises for months and months now, yet the electorate always has seems to disagree in the end. I'm sure plenty of those people will be part of this new 'leftist' party, though.

Haha, I take it you don't like the results, eh?

Tell me this, asshole.  Just who the fuck died and made you king?  Who gave you the right to decide who is progressive and who is not?  More people approve of the Federalist than Labor probably because they don't exist for the sole purpose of pushing an ideology.  Federalists care about governing more than riling people up or trying to alienate themselves for the sake of purity.

The numbers are simply not on your side anymore.  Unless Nix or DemPGH are on the ballot in two months, a Federalist has a very good chance of getting elected.  And now Labor is one of the most hated parties in the game.  Facts are facts.  I've already said I'd vote for Nix or DemPGH, and yes, there is even a chance that I will support other sensible Laborites if they run, but people like you are not making me any more likely to support them at all.  And if you're okay with the fact that you being a huge cunt is aiding your opponents, then great!  I suppose we don't have a problem here.  I'm sure the Federalists don't, either.

Thanks for proving that you have absolutely nothing to offer but trolling and memes.  You've once again proven that your only purpose on this site is to get a rise out of people.  If there were any doubts about that, let all suspicions be confirmed.

Haha, I take it you don't like the results, eh?

Tell me this, asshole.  Just who the fuck died and made you king?  Who gave you the right to decide who is progressive and who is not?  More people approve of the Federalist than Labor probably because they don't exist for the sole purpose of pushing an ideology.  Federalists care about governing more than riling people up or trying to alienate themselves for the sake of purity.

I did, motherfker, when I built the new left. Thankfully, I don't have to worry about its management anymore, and thankfully, you'll never have to, either.

More people "approve" of the Federalist Party because a) the Federalists always vote in mass in these polls and b) c**nts like you give them support out of one side of your mouth while attempting to cling to some semblance of "leftism" out of the other side. It's fking pathetic.

Contrary to what your big ego would have have you believe, the Labor Party does not have a monopoly on leftism.  No one anointed you "King of the left," and if you've deluded yourself enough to believe that, you're even more arrogant than I thought.  When I voted in this poll, I didn't base my opinions on ideology - heck, if I did, I would have voted 'positive' for the Liberals.  The Liberal Party is no longer relevant, which is why I voted the other way.  I voted 'positive' for the Federalists because their leaders understand that parties are for governing in addition to having values.  Labor has failed to understand that leadership involves working with others, which is why I gave it a negative rating.  Until Labor gets off its high horse and people like you pull their heads out of their ass, I don't see mine and others' view of your party changing in the near future.

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The Federalists have five seats in the Senate, now.  One more seat, and they'll have an outright majority.  How dare you try and claim victory in the elections when it's becoming more evident day-by-day that your party's days in power are numbered.

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Hey, numbnuts, if I only cared about being in control, I wouldn't have resigned my Senate seat.  My priority in this game was never to be some 'symbol of the left,' it was to have fun, debate, and propose ideas - not to engage in some worthless dickwaving contest like you and others have.  When one group is hellbent on ruining the game to look good for their fellow partisan zombies, the game loses its meaning, and the group guilty of that should suffer some electoral consequences, hence why I demonstrated my opposition by vowing to oppose most of the people in your party.  I'll continue to support Laborites who I believe make the game better, but I will not feed your party's addiction to power and bragging rights.  You people are the same reason I've called out folks like Oldiesfreak and krazen for thinking with their avatars and not with their brains.  If calling out people whose ideas and attitudes stem from the mainstream or civil discourse is inconsistent in your own little world, then so be it.  I don't have to sit here and justify why I am a progressive, and I don't see why I should.  All I'll say is that the very reason my avatar is green right now is to protest something our real-life president is doing that I do not consider 'progressive' by any sense of the word.

You would do well to remember that it was progressives, liberal and moderate, who helped Nix and DemPGH win that narrow victory in June.  If you think acting the way you are is going to be helpful long-term, then keep it up, because only your opponents will benefit.  And you'll continue to look like an asshole, no matter what the outcome.

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Except that I actually have gotten quite a bit of legislation passed and enacted since I was elected to the Senate in June, something that I'm not quite sure you can say yourself. While you were running the Heavy Party/Moderate Hero Union, I was introducing detailed legislation on reforming Atlasia's labor code, creating a framework for legalizing controlled substances and sex work, and most recently introduced a bill filling a crucial gap in our civil rights law. Hit me up whenever you manage to get done building a kinder, gentler moderate hero party with no ideology, no credible candidates, and no chance of ever winning the Presidency and/or the Senate in this game.

TNF, you have done a lot even though you are a pompous little dick sometimes, but let me tell you this: I have been in this game a lot longer than you have, junior.  I've been an NE Rep, Speaker, Senator, and Governor all within two years, serving multiple terms in each position.  And I didn't have to carpetbag to a region more kind to my ideology to do it.  But, as Hagrid once said, there is a time to stop, and that's part of the reason I did.  Yes, my dad died and you and Napoleon pushed me off the edge, so I quit to escape the insanity somewhat.  (And now I see how well that went!)  And even though electoral politics here is behind me now, I still make the effort to stay active in this game even though I thought I wouldn't have been able to.  As for my record, I've overhauled the NE's education system, helped establish a public bank, and successfully advocated for a number of progressive reforms, some big and some small, all while maintaining a surplus in my region to boot.  Most of things I fought for appealed to folks across the board, which is why I was able to beat people both to my right and to my left when I ran for reelection each time.  If you want to continue with this dickwaving contest, I'll keep the list going, but it isn't accomplishing much.

I wonder what Cris thinks about all this junk at his HQ.

Anyway Griffin, I can tell from the bolded red words that you don't like me and I'm willing to accept that. But I'd like to clarify something. I am not the puppet of some older player. The idea to found the Social Democratic Party was mine and mine alone.

The red wasn't aimed at you, PJ, hence the:

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Except that I actually have gotten quite a bit of legislation passed and enacted since I was elected to the Senate in June, something that I'm not quite sure you can say yourself. While you were running the Heavy Party/Moderate Hero Union, I was introducing detailed legislation on reforming Atlasia's labor code, creating a framework for legalizing controlled substances and sex work, and most recently introduced a bill filling a crucial gap in our civil rights law. Hit me up whenever you manage to get done building a kinder, gentler moderate hero party with no ideology, no credible candidates, and no chance of ever winning the Presidency and/or the Senate in this game.

Precisely. Anyone who pays at least a modest amount of attention to Senate affairs would know that TNF is perhaps the most accomplished Senator of this session (or maybe Napoleon, there's no real ranking system). Just because you don't like him or got pissy because he wanted to offer amendments to your education bill does not mean he has nothing to offer.

And since I usually don't directly jump to calling people vulgar names until a little bitch like you does it first, I'm just going to address the notion of our loss of seats and cooperation. Six was untenable and everyone knew that - four were at-large and NO PARTY EVER has won four at-large Senate seats. Polnut dropped out as the last minute - otherwise, it'd be Nap, Gass and Polnut instead of Nap, Gass and Xahar. We worked with the external cards that were dealt to us and we yet again pulled out the best case scenario.

This all ties together. Anyone who'd like to see what's been done over the past two months should bother to read the Govt board. Labor has got A LOT of things done - we governed quite well with our temporary and untenable majority.

And you're right: Labor doesn't cooperate with parties - our individuals cooperate with individuals. In every region, Labor's been at the table and most people know great Laborites. That's our party: good people. it's assholes like me that paved the way for them to get elected over moderate hero BS.

Keep in mind that two of those people in the second list you mentioned - Napoleon and Polnut - are well to the center of yourself and others in your party.  They are also both, more often than not, far more pleasant than you are.  Two very respected Federalists got elected, Tmth and Maxwell, all because of what they've done in the past and because their ideas are well in line with the electorate.  I think we can all agree that people, regardless of party, can win if they appeal to the people they want to vote for them.  But that doesn't give either party the right to anoint itself as some "God of the left" or "God of the right" or whatever, which is exactly what you're doing by thumbing your nose at other leftist parties that have slightly different ideas from your own.  I would never vote for a person like you at all, not just because of your ideas, but because of your attitude.  That is just as important to a party as their platform: class.  You have none.

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I don't place much merit in individuals who abruptly resort to calling me an asshole when it comes to their evaluation of me and how it pertains to class. You pulled the same sort of nonsense with TNF just a couple of weeks ago. You clearly do my know how to separate the concepts of tact, bluntness and vulgarity - so why should I oblige you?

And the Federalists have two seats because any less and they'd be an absolute joke like they and we were in April. They could've elected SJoyce, but they knee jerked after our Election Day rounds and started pushing support to JCL. Also, I can assure you that very few would be more acutely aware of the ideological composition of the Labor Party than I, but thanks for the heads-up.

Well, you deserved it, friend.  You want to act like an asshole, I'll treat you like an asshole.  You want to be a kind and respectful person like you used to be, I'll act the same way towards you.  I've applied that standard to everyone I've come in contact with, left or right.  And yes, I did get pissed at TNF a couple weeks ago.  You know why?  Because he attacked Tmth for no reason at all.  If you're snotty to someone, don't complain when someone acts that way in return.  I wish I could say I shouldn't have gotten involved in the first place, but I'm not just going to sit here and watch someone I've been friends with for quite some time get verbally attacked.

And yes, the way the Federalists pushed their support toward a far-right candidate (sorry, JCL) ended up hurting them both ways.  Neither of those guys got elected.

By the way, you should be thanking me.  If it weren't for my resignation, the Federalists would have a solid majority right now.

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I don't place much merit in individuals who abruptly resort to calling me an asshole when it comes to their evaluation of me and how it pertains to class. You pulled the same sort of nonsense with TNF just a couple of weeks ago. You clearly do my know how to separate the concepts of tact, bluntness and vulgarity - so why should I oblige you?

And the Federalists have two seats because any less and they'd be an absolute joke like they and we were in April. They could've elected SJoyce, but they knee jerked after our Election Day rounds and started pushing support to JCL. Also, I can assure you that very few would be more acutely aware of the ideological composition of the Labor Party than I, but thanks for the heads-up.

Well, you deserved it, friend.  You want to act like an asshole, I'll treat you like an asshole.  You want to be a kind and respectful person like you used to be, I'll act the same way towards you.  I've applied that standard to everyone I've come in contact with, left or right.  And yes, I did get pissed at TNF a couple weeks ago.  You know why?  Because he attacked Tmth for no reason at all.  If you're snotty to someone, don't complain when someone acts that way in return.  I wish I could say I shouldn't have gotten involved in the first place, but I'm not just going to sit here and watch someone I've been friends with for quite some time get verbally attacked.

And yes, the way the Federalists pushed their support toward a far-right candidate (sorry, JCL) ended up hurting them both ways.  Neither of those guys got elected.

By the way, you should be thanking me.  If it weren't for my resignation, the Federalists would have a solid majority right now.

Scott.. you're projecting a lot here.  You used to be kind and respectful as well.  Now you're in a constant state of perpetual outrage where you start firing off nasty names at people and everyone is too afraid to call you out because we think it happened just because of personal stuff going on in your life.

If you're overwhelmed by personal stuff and it's making you nasty like this, then take a break.  Because nobody is going to tiptoe around you anymore.

Snowguy, I am doing nothing besides calling them as I see them.  If you think I just decided to lash out at people one day, I suggest you look at what your friends have been saying to myself and to others for the past several months.  "Constant state of perpetual outrage?"  Please.