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« on: September 07, 2012, 02:02:55 PM »

The Judiciary Committee unanimously recommended this, yadda yadda yadda.
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2012, 08:34:10 PM »

Let me put it this way -- while I affirm that it is important for the government to enforce the rule of law and carry out justice to those who violate those laws, capital punishment simply is not a way to do so morally or practically.  A human life should only be taken by means of self-defense.  Yet, the death penalty is simply not a valid exercise of self-defense because they occur long after the offense has been committed.  The ability the government to infringe on one's inalienable right to life is not only hypocritical in nature, but presents an overreach of power.  On that -- what if, say, an executed individual is later found to have been innocent of the crime that landed them in their situation?  A person who's serving a life sentence in prison can easily be released, but a life can never be restored.

I would also like to point out to some numbers regarding the high cost of the death penalty.  Interestingly, the federal average cost of defending a trial in a federal death case is $620,932, about eight times that of a federal murder case in which the death penalty is not sought.  The state of Kansas concluded that capital cases are 70% more expensive than comparable non-death penalty cases.  If we pass this amendment, not only would we be asserting our support for individual rights, but therein would lie the opportunity to reduce part of our budget or invest more funds in finding practical ways to deter criminal activity and penalize offenders.
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2012, 10:16:08 PM »

Yankee, is your rule still in place with TJ no longer in office?  I don't think tabling it is necessary at this point since he has already defended the amendment in the Committee and there has been a number of arguments for it posted here.
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2012, 12:22:28 AM »

I'll volunteer for sponsorship.

This is going to need a new sponsor. Who wants it?

Yankee, is your rule still in place with TJ no longer in office?  I don't think tabling it is necessary at this point since he has already defended the amendment in the Committee and there has been a number of arguments for it posted here.

No, non-Senators can't sponsor legislation, so no I am not going to follow through here. A litte BK style screw the rules, I have....  Tongue Now if that weren't the case I would because here is the problem with your argument. The whole purpose of this is force the sponsors to be present at the beginning of the debate. So "other people" defeats the purpose. As for his posts on the committee, if he were to post a link to them, I would think it should suffice, but if someone else does then no. It is all about force the sponsor's presence to be made in the thread from the beginning of the debate.

It is good that you realize that one doesn't have to be PPT to enforce this policy. In fact, since it uses the tabling procedures, anyone could enforce it. Evil

I don't question the motive behind your rule, I'd just hate to table a bill in the middle of a good debate. Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2012, 12:04:38 AM »

Sure.
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2012, 12:18:26 AM »

Aye.
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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2012, 11:44:44 PM »

Life is funny sometimes. Smiley
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