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Max Power
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« on: July 19, 2005, 08:25:58 PM »

Any article critical of Islam with the address bible.ca should be taken with a grain of salt.
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Max Power
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,182
Political Matrix
E: 1.84, S: -8.09

« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2005, 09:15:24 PM »


A typical response I expected. If its an opinion you agree with aka Lunars post its "ok". But if you disagree with it then the source is definately wrong. But of course to understand Islam you don't have to look at what I say to see it. Just read 1000 years of their history to understand where they are.
Read a thousand years of our history. The crusades, not denouncing the Holocaust, calling homosexuality a mental disorder and making up crappy numbers about saying the average homosexual lives to be 34, not denouncing slavery, sexual abuse with children, etc. Any church can be twisted to show a dark side. Even the Catholic Church,
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Max Power
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,182
Political Matrix
E: 1.84, S: -8.09

« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2005, 09:48:49 PM »


A typical response I expected. If its an opinion you agree with aka Lunars post its "ok". But if you disagree with it then the source is definately wrong. But of course to understand Islam you don't have to look at what I say to see it. Just read 1000 years of their history to understand where they are.
Read a thousand years of our history. The crusades, not denouncing the Holocaust, calling homosexuality a mental disorder and making up crappy numbers about saying the average homosexual lives to be 34, not denouncing slavery, sexual abuse with children, etc. Any church can be twisted to show a dark side. Even the Catholic Church,

Not quite the same as :  Trying to conquer Europe, setting back Africa hundreds of years, destroying historical sites, raping and oppressing women, children, non-believers, blowing up innocent civilians in schools, flying planes into buildings, the pact of Umar, the shariah law.
So trying to conquer the Middle East is worse than trying to conquer Europe? And Africa was not set back hundreds of years do to Islam, it was do to European Colonization. And the Church has tried to destroy historic sites, and they have burnt down entire cities during the crusades. And oppressing non-believers and women? Are you saying the Church, which taught students that Jews, Evangelicals, Muslims, Atheists, and all other non-Catholics were going to hell as recently as when my mother went to elementary school in the early '50's has not done so? And records kept by Middle-eastern scholars indicate that they did rape women and children. Who started a Holy War? The Church, it was the crusades. And the Pact of Umar was no differents of the treatment of blacks in the south after the civil war, no? And I find the Shariah Law strikingly similiar to the way the church refused to denounce poor treatment of women and how some Popes even encouraged it. And as for flying airplanes into buildings:
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Max Power
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,182
Political Matrix
E: 1.84, S: -8.09

« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2005, 10:08:43 PM »

Hitler was not really a Christian so stop using him in your arguments. As for your assumptions about those who are going to hell. Well you are absolutely correct. If they deny Jesus their is no hope for them, sad to say.
Hmmm..... Who's standing next to Hitler? I hear his name is Mussolini or something. I heard he may be a Christian? Really?
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Max Power
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,182
Political Matrix
E: 1.84, S: -8.09

« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2005, 10:17:31 PM »

Hitler was not really a Christian so stop using him in your arguments. As for your assumptions about those who are going to hell. Well you are absolutely correct. If they deny Jesus their is no hope for them, sad to say.
Hmmm..... Who's standing next to Hitler? I hear his name is Mussolini or something. I heard he may be a Christian? Really?

Strawman.
Nah, it IS Mussolini!!! Is states going to admit he was wrong?
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