Should Democrats ditch Biden and Harris in 2024?

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I don't think Harris is necessarily a problem with this ticket.

I agree. In fact I think she will be the first female President. She has everything it takes, and in 4 years she will also have experience. Kamala portrays the diversity that our country is. People will come to like her and appreciate what she brings to the table.

Right now, just like with Trump, we didn't know what we were getting and that's how it is with Kamala. People need to get to know her, watch her, listen to her. Watch her work. No she is not the problem with the ticket, she is in fact the future of the Presidency. My opinion, of course.

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I can't believe the message some Dems get from this race is to swing even more to the left.  If Biden wasn't the nominee, I'm not sure the Dems would've been able to recapture the Rust Belt.  I definitely don't see Harris playing well there if she's the nominee in four years.

Harris is the reason it's so close to begin with. She has to go.

Nah. She represents the future, and those laggers in those conservative red states need to be pulled into the future with her. Their lagging, scared-of-change conservative mindset is what has to go.

Harris represents everyone. Women of all colors, men of all colors, people from all walks of life. She is definitely the future wave, along with the young ones coming up who have a different vision of what politics should be like. We have a bright future ahead of us, indeed. My opinion, of course.

As with Obama, Biden will be the place holder for a country in turmoil, and when we get more settled down, Kamala will take us forward from there. She has to stay.

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I don't think Harris is necessarily a problem with this ticket.

I agree. In fact I think she will be the first female President. She has everything it takes, and in 4 years she will also have experience. Kamala portrays the diversity that our country is.

She is a Californian elite. Those are already overrepresented in government.

People will come to like her and appreciate what she brings to the table.

The above aside, I hope you're right...

Right now, just like with Trump, we didn't know what we were getting and that's how it is with Kamala.

...but she has an electoral track record, unlike Trump, and it isn't great.

People need to get to know her, watch her, listen to her. Watch her work. No she is not the problem with the ticket, she is in fact the future of the Presidency. My opinion, of course.

As I said above, I hope you're right. She's almost certainly the future of the Democratic ticket.

Also AOC and all the younger ones full of fire and idealism...that's what our country was founded upon.

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I don't think Harris is necessarily a problem with this ticket.

I agree. In fact I think she will be the first female President. She has everything it takes, and in 4 years she will also have experience. Kamala portrays the diversity that our country is.

She is a Californian elite. Those are already overrepresented in government.

People will come to like her and appreciate what she brings to the table.

The above aside, I hope you're right...

Right now, just like with Trump, we didn't know what we were getting and that's how it is with Kamala.

...but she has an electoral track record, unlike Trump, and it isn't great.

People need to get to know her, watch her, listen to her. Watch her work. No she is not the problem with the ticket, she is in fact the future of the Presidency. My opinion, of course.

As I said above, I hope you're right. She's almost certainly the future of the Democratic ticket.

Also AOC and all the younger ones full of fire and idealism...that's what our country was founded upon.

By "the future", I Just meant the most likely next nominee after Biden, not the most "natural fit" or whatever. By that metric, AOC almost certainly isn't the future of the ticket as I doubt her ability to win a national primary even more than I doubt the ability of most anti-establishment Democrats to pull that off.

Just like we learned not to count out Trump in 2016, we need to learn not to count anyone out. The future belongs to the youth. Anyway, short-term I agree with you.

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Wait and see how the next two years go. If they go as mediocre as I think they do, then yes.

The next two years will be mediocre I'll bet. People need to settle down and get a sense of calm before anything can be done. And with Mitch doing his usual thing which is blocking everything the Dems try to do, nothing will be able to get done. He should have gotten the boot but I guess he "delivers" for KY and while they seem to hate him, they continue voting for him. At any rate, I don't have high hopes that anything can get done in the next 4 years. We need to vote in better people all around.