Obamacare repealed...then what?

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I guess the answer is, who cares? The rich people and well-to-do (like Trump and everyone else in Congress) will still be able to afford health insurance, and that's really all that matters.

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What really galls me is that they want to repeal it without FIRST having a BETTER plan to replace it with. A plan that won't cost MORE than Obamacare and that also won't be more cumbersome.

But it sounds like the ACA is already entrenched in the system with millions of people benefiting from it, and to repeal something like that would be INSANE.

Just make it better, what's so hard to understand about that?

The coal miners are benefiting from the ACA, and yet, they voted FOR Trump who wants to repeal it.

What's wrong with that picture?

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Nothing, because it's not going to be repealed. The Republican leadership likes to talk about repeal, but isn't going to risk potential losses on actually doing it. That talk about delaying the repeal until after 2020 is proof of the apprehension that the leadership has.

This. The Republicans are going to put on a dog and pony show and we wind up with a slightly altered ObamaCare plan.

If they are truly putting on a dog and pony show then that's a damn shame. Why don't they just suck it up and admit that the ACA does some real good things for a lot of people, but let's make it even better for even more people.

Try being human for once, GOP and stuff the egos.

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"Make America Sick Again."

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At this point, the GOP will not be able to blame the Dems for anything. It's their ballgame and they can pretty much ramrod through anything they want, especially now that King Tut is on the throne.

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At this point, the GOP will not be able to blame the Dems for anything. It's their ballgame and they can pretty much ramrod through anything they want, especially now that King Tut is on the throne.

Let's not kid ourselves...they will repeal and not replace and they'll get away with it all. Just imagine Trump's rage tweets and the media sucking him off blaming the Democrats for not cooperating

People just dont get it...Trump will get away with practically anything

Why do you suppose that is?

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So is this how a successful CEO runs a business? Just get rid of something that "we don't like" and worry about the details later?

Not deal with a replacement program until later, just get rid of the smelly thing first?

Seems to me you deal with the replacement program FIRST, have it ready at the helm, THEN get rid of the smelly thing. That's what rational minds would do, IMO.

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At this point, the GOP will not be able to blame the Dems for anything. It's their ballgame and they can pretty much ramrod through anything they want, especially now that King Tut is on the throne.

Let's not kid ourselves...they will repeal and not replace and they'll get away with it all. Just imagine Trump's rage tweets and the media sucking him off blaming the Democrats for not cooperating

People just dont get it...Trump will get away with practically anything

Why do you suppose that is?

I can't explain it but it's just my gut feeling...just think about what the GOP has got away with for the last decade alone...the 9/11, the Iraq War disaster which gave us ISIS, and the economic collapse of 2008...and yet here we are...the GOP stronger then ever before!

The GOP is a corrupt fascist organization...they look at what Trump got away with and thanks to extreme polarization and gerrymandering, they've just realized they can get away with anything especially after the election of a disgusting piece of shyt like Trump who is literally Gaddaffi but dumber

Something they didn't get away with is dropping the ethics committee. At least once in a while Trump may come through with some good stuff. I am hoping this is the case in the coming years...we'll see.

But otherwise, you do bring up some points to ponder.

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So is this how a successful CEO runs a business? Just get rid of something that "we don't like" and worry about the details later?

Not deal with a replacement program until later, just get rid of the smelly thing first?

Seems to me you deal with the replacement program FIRST, have it ready at the helm, THEN get rid of the smelly thing. That's what rational minds would do, IMO.

If the Republicans had a coherent and improved alternative for Obamacare, then they could have introduced it while Obama was President during an active session, had a debate in both houses of Congress that brings the benefits before the public (including cost containment and obvious reforms in funding and implementation) and compel him to accept or reject it.

Now that the Republicans have a near-totalitarian level of control of the political process (as there is no obvious dissent possible within the Party and it can completely ignore the sensibilties of the Democrats) they probably can abolish it (and probably Medicare as well) and return to the model of maximal pricing for minimal service -- profit maximization. That people die? Tough luck! Such is the Will of God anyway in the most superstitious country in the Industrial West. The only fear that the Republicans have is of being defeated in the next election or two, and that could be preventable.

The right strategy would have been either to bring incremental reforms or to offer a viable substitute. That happens when politics is give-and-take and not simply getting away with what one can when one can. That is how democracy works.
 
We Americans no longer have a functioning democracy. We at best have something like the old Spanish Torno in which the winners of one election go after the losers of the previous election even to the extent of putting the prominent figures of the previous government in prison )Think of Donald Trump egging supporters on with "Lock her up!", undoing the legislative changes of the previous government, pushing a polarizing agenda, and enriching those connected to the winning Party.  With that one gets radical change but no sustained progress. That Torno ended with the accession of Francisco Franco to power in the Spanish Civil War. Franco ensured that there would be no change of government except over his dead body -- and that would take nearly forty years.

Now that I think of it -- Fidel Castro did much the same except to impose as  a godless and anti-capitalist order as Franco's regime was devout and plutocratic, and it will take at least sixty years for a meaningful change of government from the one that Castro established in the wake of the Cuban Revolution.    

That's a very informative post. I wanted to acknowledge what you wrote, I enjoyed reading it. And you make sense about the fact that if they really had a coherent and improved alternative to Obamacare they would have presented it by now. My logical mind just can't comprehend why they want to repeal without offering anything better and cheaper because that's what they say they want. It must be all about ego because that's the only thing that makes any sense, which is actually a bad thing for the rest of us.

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Here's another angle that people aren't focusing on if Obamacare gets repealed:

Jobs are going to be lost, lots of them. At lease according to this article:

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/05/news/economy/repealing-obamacare-jobs-lost/index.html

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