Some campaign aides urging Bernie to quit after Tuesday

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Not to mention that on Wednesday, after the Tuesday primaries, Hillary is going to go to work on Bernie and his supporters as well. So if Obama, Biden, and the rest of the Dem Party start getting after Bernie then maybe he'll concede. He doesn't owe his supporters heat stroke, exhaustion, or a heart attack (at his age).

It's OK to ease up Bernie, you fought like a 21 yr old. Time to rest now.

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For me, it would take a lot more than a mere enthusiastic endorsement to undo the last year, and particularly the last six weeks, of obscene behavior.  Bernie has intentionally systematically poisoned the attitudes of an entire generation of young people who are just getting involved in politics towards the Democratic party and made a strong effort to convince them that the party is riddled with corruption, the election is rigged against their interests, most of its politicians are lying, bought-and-paid-for establishment shills, and its nominee is... well, too many things to list really.  I want to see him make a sincere and enthusiastic effort to undo the toxic, negative effect he has had on the party and on our democratic system in general in the minds of all these impressionable kids.  You can't just burn down my house, shoot my dog, and then leave a 20 dollar bill on what's left of my porch and expect me to call it even.

Just being honest here, but I don't think Bernie did much poisoning, I think the young people already feel that the "system" is corrupt, Bernie just gave them a voice and a platform from which to vent their anger and their desire for change.

I'm hearing the same thing coming from them that I used to say when I was their age: "anti-establishment" this and "corrupt" that, it's the generational thing. Young people don't want to do it the way their parents did it, whatever "it" is.

And as for your statement: "I want to see him make a sincere and enthusiastic effort to undo the toxic, negative effect he has had on the party and on our democratic system in general in the minds of all these impressionable kids", I wouldn't hold my breath. Bernie has repeatedly said that it's not his job to tell people how to vote. That if Hillary wants their vote she will have to do the work of getting it.

I think that's a cop out, but it's what he continues to say.

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For me, it would take a lot more than a mere enthusiastic endorsement to undo the last year, and particularly the last six weeks, of obscene behavior.  Bernie has intentionally systematically poisoned the attitudes of an entire generation of young people who are just getting involved in politics towards the Democratic party and made a strong effort to convince them that the party is riddled with corruption, the election is rigged against their interests, most of its politicians are lying, bought-and-paid-for establishment shills, and its nominee is... well, too many things to list really.  I want to see him make a sincere and enthusiastic effort to undo the toxic, negative effect he has had on the party and on our democratic system in general in the minds of all these impressionable kids.  You can't just burn down my house, shoot my dog, and then leave a 20 dollar bill on what's left of my porch and expect me to call it even.

Just being honest here, but I don't think Bernie did much poisoning, I think the young people already feel that the "system" is corrupt, Bernie just gave them a voice and a platform from which to vent their anger and their desire for change.

I'm hearing the same thing coming from them that I used to say when I was their age: "anti-establishment" this and "corrupt" that, it's the generational thing. Young people don't want to do it the way their parents did it, whatever "it" is.

And as for your statement: "I want to see him make a sincere and enthusiastic effort to undo the toxic, negative effect he has had on the party and on our democratic system in general in the minds of all these impressionable kids", I wouldn't hold my breath. Bernie has repeatedly said that it's not his job to tell people how to vote. That if Hillary wants their vote she will have to do the work of getting it.

I think that's a cop out, but it's what he continues to say.

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/9836.html


But according to you, the Democratic party are all good guys, the Republicans are all bad guys, this system isn't corrupt, and Millennials are just acting like rebellious children.  I won't say anything mean, as you seem like a good-hearted person, but your extremely patronizing and naively tribalistic perspective is part of the problem.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

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For me, it would take a lot more than a mere enthusiastic endorsement to undo the last year, and particularly the last six weeks, of obscene behavior.  Bernie has intentionally systematically poisoned the attitudes of an entire generation of young people who are just getting involved in politics towards the Democratic party and made a strong effort to convince them that the party is riddled with corruption, the election is rigged against their interests, most of its politicians are lying, bought-and-paid-for establishment shills, and its nominee is... well, too many things to list really.  I want to see him make a sincere and enthusiastic effort to undo the toxic, negative effect he has had on the party and on our democratic system in general in the minds of all these impressionable kids.  You can't just burn down my house, shoot my dog, and then leave a 20 dollar bill on what's left of my porch and expect me to call it even.

Just being honest here, but I don't think Bernie did much poisoning, I think the young people already feel that the "system" is corrupt, Bernie just gave them a voice and a platform from which to vent their anger and their desire for change.

I'm hearing the same thing coming from them that I used to say when I was their age: "anti-establishment" this and "corrupt" that, it's the generational thing. Young people don't want to do it the way their parents did it, whatever "it" is.

And as for your statement: "I want to see him make a sincere and enthusiastic effort to undo the toxic, negative effect he has had on the party and on our democratic system in general in the minds of all these impressionable kids", I wouldn't hold my breath. Bernie has repeatedly said that it's not his job to tell people how to vote. That if Hillary wants their vote she will have to do the work of getting it.

I think that's a cop out, but it's what he continues to say.

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/9836.html


But according to you, the Democratic party are all good guys, the Republicans are all bad guys, this system isn't corrupt, and Millennials are just acting like rebellious children.  I won't say anything mean, as you seem like a good-hearted person, but your extremely patronizing and naively tribalistic perspective is part of the problem.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

That was a very thoughtful, considered, informed, evidence-based rebuttal.

All I'll say is this, I've already done my fighting....a lifetime of it. It's your turn now; I've retired. If you don't like the system then you do what you have to do to change it. I'm not real worried about any of the things your post is implying. It's time for me to hand over the mantle to you. Go for it. I'll be watching from my easy chair. ;-)