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« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2005, 01:22:32 PM »

Umm, there's plenty of Republican curroption if you would just open your eyes. Of course, you think that inside trading should be legal, so maybe you just don't care about curroption.

Please produce quotes of me saying insider trading should be legal.
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« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2005, 08:17:45 PM »

Actually, somewhere between 54% and 57% of American adults now favor the constitutional amendment, according to Gallup polling data.
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« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2005, 08:28:03 PM »

Actually, somewhere between 54% and 57% of American adults now favor the constitutional amendment, according to Gallup polling data.

No one has polled for a while, but this Boston Globe poll was more recent. Before you attack the Boston Globe, remember that Gallup doesn't have that great a record.

It's from May.
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« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2005, 08:31:07 PM »

I think you're jumping ahead dazzleman. doing something, in fact, republicans do well. you didn't actually come out and say, for example, in your penultimate post in this thread that the DNC favors gay marriage, but it's there, in between the lines. In fact, neither the DNC nor the RNC nor do most americans favor marriage rights for gays (although personally I feel strongly that they should be allowed to marry), but anyone reading your post would assume that the dems favor gay marriage but the GOP does not. Even though you can honestly claim never to have said that explicitly!!! Now do you get my point?

I think you're reading a little too much into the post. Jfern and Modu were discussing gay marriage, and that's why I brought it up. I realize that the Democratic party doesn't officially support it. I was just using it as an example of a liberal position that is not a winning one, at least not at this time.

Kerry's position on gay marriage is strange, because he favors a constitutional amendment against it in Massachusetts, but not at the federal level.

For me, the issue is not gay marriage but judicial activism. If you know that sooner or later a liberal judge is going to force gay marriage down the public's throat, and you oppose a constitutional amendment to prevent it, then you are de facto in support of gay marriage, but leaving it up to others to bring it about. This is not the way government is supposed to function.

I don't think a constitutional amendment regarding gay marriage should be needed. If the courts were serving their proper role, we wouldn't even be talking about it. I think the issue should be decided in the legislatures of the states, without interference from the courts.



It sounds like you agree completely with Kerry on gay marriage.

That's how it should be decided, but he's saying because the courts will likely intervene, an amendment is needed.

I think there should be an amendment that leaves the issue up to the states in clear language. Same thing for polygamy and incestuous marriages.
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« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2005, 12:39:57 PM »

Uh, the May Gallup says otherwise.
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« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2005, 12:55:32 PM »

Gallup is more reputable. What date?
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« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2005, 09:12:48 PM »

I actually agree with a lot of that. Most social issues should be just that—social issues, not government issues.
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« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2005, 01:53:44 PM »

I doubt most Americans support paying 25% in payroll taxes alone, as they would under single-payer health care.
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« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2005, 01:58:26 PM »

What does that have to do with anything? Not everyone wants health care, especially not when the quality sucks.
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« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2005, 05:00:00 PM »

Uh, 65% of Americans oppose a government take over of health care, according to Gallup.
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« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2005, 05:20:07 PM »

Gallup is more reputable than Pew, and unlike Pew, actually asked the question you're talking about.
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« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2005, 05:24:29 PM »

Health care is a state issue, constitutionally.

Pew didn't specify how much in taxes.
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