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A18
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« on: May 29, 2005, 07:46:36 PM »

No, that's incorrect. Those qualifications have already been met.

All it would do is require that there be no less than 200 reps, and not more than several thousand.
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A18
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E: 9.23, S: -6.35

« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2005, 07:51:12 PM »

As far as I can tell, it only says that you can't have more representatives than one per 50,000 people, not that you have to have that many.

You're correct. I thought he was going by the "there shall be one Representative for every thirty thousand," but that's for a time that has passed.

The requirement is no less than 200, and no more than one for every 50,000 people.
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A18
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E: 9.23, S: -6.35

« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2005, 08:02:19 PM »

OK, my bad this would be irrelevant.  It wouldn't have made a difference since the 1912. It's possible that under the 1900 census, Nevada would not be entitled to a represenative since it had only 42,335 people.

http://txsdc.utsa.edu/txdata/apport/hist_a.php

It's referring to the general rule on people per rep. It doesn't prevent a state from having its own representative regardless, as specified in the Constitution.
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A18
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Posts: 23,794
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E: 9.23, S: -6.35

« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2005, 10:04:15 AM »

OK, my bad this would be irrelevant.  It wouldn't have made a difference since the 1912. It's possible that under the 1900 census, Nevada would not be entitled to a represenative since it had only 42,335 people.

http://txsdc.utsa.edu/txdata/apport/hist_a.php
Nevada was ineligible to be a state for a while...that also requires 50,000 people.

Of course Philip's point is valid. The "every state gets a member regardless" rule in the original constitution is not explicitly repealed by this amendment. Just as the "electors have to cast their two votes for two different people" rule is not explicitly repealed by the XIIth amendment, so the counting of the Electoral Votes in 2004 was done in an unconstitutional manner.

It's clear that the "every state gets a member regardless" was not intended to be repealed, whereas the "electors have to cast their two votes for two different people" rule was clearly replaced.
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A18
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E: 9.23, S: -6.35

« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2005, 10:51:36 AM »

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;

You vote for two candidates, one for president, one for vice president.
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A18
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E: 9.23, S: -6.35

« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2005, 11:44:09 AM »

Okay, I get what you mean now
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A18
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E: 9.23, S: -6.35

« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2005, 10:57:21 AM »

The thing is, the way the 12th amendment is written, it looks like the block of text is supposed to be a total replacement for the old block of text. Thus, you might say it's okay to vote for the same person, but I don't know.
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