Why are dems so out of touch with half of Americas states?

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Because we're in touch with the other states.  Why are the Republicans so out of touch with the West Coast and the Northeast?

Yes, the GOP is so out of touch here on the West Coast that Bush got 46 percent in Washington, 44 percent in California, and 47 percent in Oregon. And these states hate the Republicans so much that Bush won a majority of counties in all three.

Stop oversimplifying.

Good point, Bob. Even in states that are considered "out of play," the other party often gets a large chunk of the vote. The Democrats got 45% here in Virginia.

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But you can also look at it this way.  Those Republican voters in California are probably more liberal than most Southern voters who went for Kerry.

That's not really true at all. Maybe you think John Ford is more liberal than Frodo.

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But you can also look at it this way.  Those Republican voters in California are probably more liberal than most Southern voters who went for Kerry.

That's not really true at all. Maybe you think John Ford is more liberal than Frodo.

You can't base an argument on two specific cases.  Not every CA Republican is like John Ford, and not every VA Democrat is like Frodo, and you know it.

Take a look at any of the southern Democrats here. They're not exactly conservative.

If they voted for Bush, they obviously supported Bush. How liberal can they be?

If they voted for Kerry, they obviously supported Kerry. How conservative can they be?

No, the state divide is very minute.

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Your IQ of about 10 is certainly overwhelming. There is almost no geographic divide here whatsoever. The most liberal Republican is from North Carolina.

Who you vote for says a lot about your ideology.

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Well, yes, but Rockefeller Republicans and Dixiecrats in the south are more about who can get elected than anything else. That decision is made by majority rule.

I am sure the majority of Bush voters in New York are quite conservative, and the majority of Kerry voters in Texas quite liberal.

It's not as if any one area in a state reflects the state ideology as a whole. There are conservative areas in the blue states, and liberal areas in the red states.

There's just no reason to act like we're more divided along geographic lines than we are.

If every person in the red states was a conservative, in every person in the blue states was a liberal, we would have dismantled the union by now for the sake of us all.

Yet Louisiana went for Clinton, and Vermont for George H.W. Bush. I suppose we are to believe that everyone in those states went from liberal to conservative and conservative to liberal overnight.